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And a small > and a bit older tool has an advantage, that one can quite easily > understand it and, if need arises, make it do what is locally > required. So it's a balance. And in recent years, the modernizations > often happened to curtate in delightfulness (with PostgreSQL sadly > not being an exception). Where is delightfulness short changed in?: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/18/release-18.html#RELEASE-18-HIGHLIGHTS -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com