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Holzer wrote: > On 2024-10-11 21:21:16 -0700, Adrian Klaver wrote: >> On 10/11/24 20:10, admin@iseki.space wrote: >>> I found. Maybe we should reply to the mailing list only. Otherwise we'll >>> receive multiple copies of the emails. >>> >>> >> >> Not if you go here: >> >> https://lists.postgresql.org/manage/ >> >> and check: >> >> Don't receive an extra copy of mails when listed in To or CC fields > > Yes, but that's the wrong way around. Then I get some mails only > directly and some only through the list, which makes proper filtering > hard to impossible. For me it's much better to get all the mails through > the list (so I can use the List-ID header to filter them into the > appropriate folder) and live with the extra copies in my inbox. I would > prefer to not get those extra copies, but there is nothing the list can > do about them, that's under the control of the sender. Not following. If it goes through the list either by 'Reply to list' or Reply All' it is going to pick up the List-ID and be filtered. All the setting does is make sure you don't get extra copies when your email is in the To or CC fields, which is the list doing something about them. I've been using this for years and aside from some general list/email issues it has worked as advertised. > > hp > -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com