Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uSXms-00917T-F5 for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:11:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uSXmq-000EgM-Is for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:11:53 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uSXmq-000EgD-5f for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:11:52 +0000 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uSXmo-003657-1I for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:11:52 +0000 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76B664333B; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:11:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vondra.me; s=gm1; t=1750410708; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nksiT+tA82JIKeDFISV5PIGD5b/+s91vNgs/qvRU/iI=; b=NfQbfExxuyFBImWOivRse2UAKTT9jUavho5uXUAhkJMHluiNEuC9tLaA6/ssRLKc0E/kKe wdiaG89aBNX78M0ss/rKMmEPO/6YM817m2iQNVV2/p79BkrxMHGWVi0vglJAwBnuHbyzHa QjihtiLPKCGx8u4yXxQwWxm91sVxzk7YoxUeCxhPUbPod4l0mAdGbTgyHhCzGBNwDEslQL 0ttcdBJarxz2rdmgSFdMNMHxtcsEw1ml0ZDltJLwDQbW+ItLnKeCBsAg0bpePdcDyimtjw szQsCILpOWZ+P5DZji3GocY6SD0+7qx6QIBCzGWm1quNUwSWsUTXRR+QPfKJmw== Message-ID: <3978528f-d76c-4a10-bf3e-7f599770709a@vondra.me> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:11:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Extension disappearing act To: Dominique Devienne , Laurenz Albe Cc: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org References: <3318006a000e05360c487189bf8abe5c40732ce3.camel@cybertec.at> Content-Language: en-US From: Tomas Vondra In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -100 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtddvgdektdduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfevfhfhjggtgfesthekredttddvjeenucfhrhhomhepvfhomhgrshcugghonhgurhgruceothhomhgrshesvhhonhgurhgrrdhmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepuedvvdeifefffeekudeggfdtieeglefggeduheffveeihefggfehgfdvudetffevnecukfhppeekiedrgeelrddvfedtrddvtdeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepkeeirdegledrvdeftddrvddtiedphhgvlhhopegluddtrddufeejrddtrddvngdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehtohhmrghssehvohhnughrrgdrmhgvpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopeefpdhrtghpthhtohepugguvghvihgvnhhnvgesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopehlrghurhgvnhiirdgrlhgsvgestgihsggvrhhtvggtrdgrthdprhgtphhtthhopehpghhsqhhlqdhgvghnvghrrghlsehlihhsthhsrdhpohhsthhgrhgvshhqlhdrohhrgh X-GND-Sasl: tomas@vondra.me List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 6/20/25 09:35, Dominique Devienne wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 6:35 PM Laurenz Albe wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2025-06-19 at 15:09 +0200, Dominique Devienne wrote: >>> Hi. Little mystery we don't understand. v17. >>> We're stumped for now. >> >> So are we. Why do you keep us guessing instead of posting a reproducer? > > Hi. Simply because there's too much proprietary stuff, I'm afraid. > And it's likely some stupid mistakes on our part anyway. That I can't see... > Still, the fact I see nothing extension-related in the libpq trace is > intriguing, isn't it? > PQtrace logs client-server communication. I would not expect it to say anything about actions that happen on the server, like for example automatically dropping objects in a schema, after the schema is dropped. I think the best way to move this forward is sharing a reproducer. If you have too much proprietary stuff, you'll have to remove those bits, or rather replace them with something you can share. In fact, a reproducer is meant to be "minimal" - the smallest example causing the issue. So creating reproducers generally means simplifying the example as much as possible anyway. And I wouldn't be surprised if in the process of doing that you find the answer yourself. regards -- Tomas Vondra