Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vKkkS-007F0c-2Q for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2025 21:57:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vKkkQ-00BN9u-1E for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2025 21:57:26 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vKkkQ-00BN9m-09 for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2025 21:57:26 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vKkkN-0085v5-15 for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2025 21:57:25 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 5AGLuwIe403587; Sun, 16 Nov 2025 16:56:58 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: pgmis@posteo.net cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: RFC 9557 / IXDTF In-reply-to: <145c7185c29456e42a9325fe1df63222@posteo.net> References: <145c7185c29456e42a9325fe1df63222@posteo.net> Comments: In-reply-to pgmis@posteo.net message dated "Sun, 16 Nov 2025 19:43:47 +0000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <403585.1763330218.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 16:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <403586.1763330218@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk pgmis@posteo.net writes: > does postgres consider some sort of implementation of rfc9557 IXDTF? > This is new time internet time format which extends timestamps with > timezone info together with the offset > - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9557 > - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFC_9557#Usage It's not on the radar at the moment. If this standard gets any real uptake (too soon to tell), somebody might build an extension datatype that works with it. AFAICT from a quick read of 9557, the intent is precisely to represent *more* information than just a point in time, or even just a point in time and an intended timezone. So IMO it wouldn't make any sense for the built-in timestamptz type to deal with this. Yeah we could make timestamptz_in read this format, but it'd be throwing away all of the additional information over an RFC 3339 timestamp, which seems like not the right thing. regards, tom lane