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Holzer" To: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) Message-ID: <4kmnvgcoxtzcyen3nyv7dunflur7feclzaxh5idfvamx7x6raf@q326opt6dupf> Mail-Followup-To: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org References: <2b09033b-d375-488d-9188-17a0f214e823@aklaver.com> <4babadbd-cc61-43e7-b7fb-3053dcdaadac@aklaver.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5kwejhghnvaqqlqw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --5kwejhghnvaqqlqw Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Index corruption issue after migration from RHEL 7 to RHEL 9 (PostgreSQL 11 streaming replication) MIME-Version: 1.0 On 2025-10-25 10:39:35 -0400, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2025 at 10:21=E2=80=AFAM Adrian Klaver > wrote: >=20 > On 10/24/25 21:50, David Rowley wrote: > > Because people promote the .0 as not yet production-ready, it means > > that fewer people bother testing with beta and RC versions. Lack of > > beta testing is what causes .0 to contain more bugs than it otherwi= se > > might, so my suggestion is that we should be encouraging people to = run > > beta and RC in their test environments to try to increase the > > stability of .0 versions. >=20 > Alright that I understand, though not necessarily agree with. I would > say lack of testing has more to do with time/money management. > Organizations don't want to spend either until: 1) They see the dust > settle on what is going to end up in the release. 2) Whether there is > anything interesting enough to invest both in moving to a new release. > Maybe there is a compelling argument that can be made to get those > organizations off the fence. I just don't what it is as you would have > to convince them to spend time and money rather then just wait and let > the community as a whole do the work.\ >=20 >=20 > Contractual requirements to not run EOL software are a strong motivator to > migrate to newer versions of OS and RDBMS. But not to test beta or RC versions. With PostgreSQL's 5 year maintenance window there is plenty of time to test with final versions before doing the upgrade. For example, if a company adopted a policy of waitig for the x.2 release, then test for 6 months before upgrading there production servers they would still get 4 years of production use out of that major version before having to upgrade again. Personally, I usually use the current version for new databases (so if I started a new project right now I'd use 18.0), but I'm conservative about upgrades (so I usually don't upgrade to a new major version until EOL is near and if I still had a 13.x, I'd probably go for 17.6 instead of 18.0). I also admit that I test beta versions only very rarely (basically only if there is a new feature I'm really excited about). hjp --=20 _ | Peter J. Holzer | Story must make more sense than reality. |_|_) | | | | | hjp@hjp.at | -- Charles Stross, "Creative writing __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | challenge!" --5kwejhghnvaqqlqw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEETtJbRjyPwVTYGJ5k8g5IURL+KF0FAmj86VsACgkQ8g5IURL+ KF3TsBAAolbE6EHwtCasZfu0PtGJ+hgDLxhppNcotPhJPr062V0rDCcYERSjpRay wbFADwuXxRStRyh49T97ri8/J+FR1PuQ8jVc0HO7CLsGx0zstqxedurVHEh4TE8+ D7YUXFIgMPAzQBgRxXGFYryxsvMNYpw7DLyyznEte1A8E76VXs/P06XO9uva8a0Z w9u2NDqPT8JNVg5qLxlyO8uzV2dxw+5wav7it7Wq5X65pgnCsiL3CBiTOXjNCOHL QjU2lborRUY20OVtZby7avXQ+HkACchhM/qlkQjUmB17W4Nu+CY9DVp6yMOQAAi+ gFuEAqmgGYQUiBVxSBYq/WWSs/IvRPY4cqhRyH6htJWb5CXuZXWE/9bSWDCAshhF scxuDStjQNwXH4yhB0puYRb4zf498InWFj0OsayrhNHmQvJcxomTeyh/rZXx8PUi BQHox385XlBkUNWcaOTy0l32hS7YxgEdOlBvtIkEw93xOE2QDhhhUx+99p2BtDP1 /WHXpZki+jt5XbEs3rYsgOhVTogytf2Ar7F+UjvVxDIGVREvWS4fkCLDga8v0Y0M 93wL/wdGjb6f9U7WhQgzcMHOJdUYRewEAL56/VJzPN7hCAEviZ7+granN/iHPqFf bA0SkJjqZFJatNtGlAovmAF8Z0JcL1UI249xar5RGdM/ir2u0Rc= =pLDm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5kwejhghnvaqqlqw--