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* Re: dead tuple difference between pgstattuple and pg_stat_user_tables
@ 2024-08-23 16:51 Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
  2024-08-23 16:53 ` Re: dead tuple difference between pgstattuple and pg_stat_user_tables Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
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From: Adrian Klaver @ 2024-08-23 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthew Tice <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]

On 8/23/24 09:33, Matthew Tice wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 10:26 AM Adrian Klaver 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>     https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/pgstattuple.html
>     <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/pgstattuple.html;
> 
>     pgstattuple_approx(regclass) returns record
> 
>           pgstattuple_approx is a faster alternative to pgstattuple that
>     returns approximate results.
> 
>     Not sure how you get exact count out of that?
> 
> 
> Maybe the wording is a little confusing to me. Under the section 
> for pgstattuple_approx:
> "pgstattuple_approx tries to avoid the full-table scan and returns exact 
> dead tuple statistics along with an approximation of the number and size 
> of live tuples and free space."

Yeah, see what you mean.

The part that bears more investigating for this case is:

"It does this by skipping pages that have only visible tuples according 
to the visibility map (if a page has the corresponding VM bit set, then 
it is assumed to contain no dead tuples).

Wondering if PostgreSQl-compatible covers this?




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Adrian Klaver
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* Re: dead tuple difference between pgstattuple and pg_stat_user_tables
  2024-08-23 16:51 Re: dead tuple difference between pgstattuple and pg_stat_user_tables Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
@ 2024-08-23 16:53 ` Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
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From: Adrian Klaver @ 2024-08-23 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthew Tice <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]

On 8/23/24 09:51, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 8/23/24 09:33, Matthew Tice wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 10:26 AM Adrian Klaver 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>>     https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/pgstattuple.html
>>     <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/pgstattuple.html;
>>
>>     pgstattuple_approx(regclass) returns record
>>
>>           pgstattuple_approx is a faster alternative to pgstattuple that
>>     returns approximate results.
>>
>>     Not sure how you get exact count out of that?
>>
>>
>> Maybe the wording is a little confusing to me. Under the section 
>> for pgstattuple_approx:
>> "pgstattuple_approx tries to avoid the full-table scan and returns 
>> exact dead tuple statistics along with an approximation of the number 
>> and size of live tuples and free space."
> 
> Yeah, see what you mean.
> 
> The part that bears more investigating for this case is:
> 
> "It does this by skipping pages that have only visible tuples according 
> to the visibility map (if a page has the corresponding VM bit set, then 
> it is assumed to contain no dead tuples).
> 
> Wondering if PostgreSQl-compatible covers this?

Meant to add:

What happens if you use pgstattuple instead?

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Adrian Klaver
[email protected]







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