Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEWAd-001tL0-GV for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 15:33:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEWAc-000ReW-Ve for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 15:33:54 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEWAb-000ReN-Op for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 15:33:54 +0000 Received: from fhigh1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.152]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEWAY-002Jpx-OS for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 15:33:53 +0000 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailfhigh.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9CF1140149; Tue, 4 Jun 2024 11:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 04 Jun 2024 11:33:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aklaver.com; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date:date :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1717515228; x=1717601628; bh=5sRISxA8mXuUpqSmihdHjNZJZKCpE0Y4LDo0RAkICU4=; b= WVvd2OVOU8ZBCRsEOjALvvXpmHB6TAkt0953MxnbZgWKjOM4sRkkUmgVkxeg4IAN frQLkdWPSyzzbqBWyjmSoIh46w/cO3ejA1qRWWXMBkNf5XtgIvEFBRFoLPbYrvRm qDMWAjYI0psoveWUUK61TioHIDqz3zGa5WpudSkZAvkOks9DEJ3C/Z7YsRUrG4Ht FqpHXWm1omjJwsLfUY1chRCbNzCJTKaPMyaIeeIcUNRmwqcx8adTStSftgSs05ad ps5XNuH2pBWR2KazAYt5qQB/IGVbQ6z8bIsjFFqZhYj8LiJMeGtNuu3L2nVJ4VqL Ls8VxUSLiu+kvsat56Ox0A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1717515228; x= 1717601628; bh=5sRISxA8mXuUpqSmihdHjNZJZKCpE0Y4LDo0RAkICU4=; b=H f7H0cv/KkWplw3LZOfwnCVNX4XAZmPVzJ11yQA4q2rMg9dSjBglFzmpdN7MBIk1I 731yRgtmOZZJJwH9AA8AL/hZ3dHkpQewkjNSPov7zESzl9Sx/02a/+wOI4qVD5V5 dqwcqpRU5ac01iHm65groFXkaK/cBHrfLODbfnvdicOCdRUnB6kacQ+SAPGlXB+X A5VbKf95wGth6VqYE8zadoGqhHQcqX0HERnBZ0akpR+YUi0DzdCFnUnKfZL6ttLC 8K4CzcS2sbrH9+qtzfZiQyrWoxWyYzOnMqkwdz02tCs9gdl1Rws9g/y3yIzKvTKF KKm/kPe6GX1+Din7fhO+w== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrvdelgedgkeehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtke ertddtvdejnecuhfhrohhmpeetughrihgrnhcumfhlrghvvghruceorggurhhirghnrdhk lhgrvhgvrhesrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffelgeeife fgveduhedthfekuedtffejveegffegjeevtdehgfduieetfeehjeehnecuvehluhhsthgv rhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprggurhhirghnrdhklhgrvh gvrhesrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i76984098:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 4 Jun 2024 11:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7005ac8c-2f83-4122-9172-04bca268f987@aklaver.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 08:33:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Purpose of pg_dump tar archive format? To: Ron Johnson , pgsql-general References: <25e9749c-ff38-4832-9b26-386cac33b3d8@aklaver.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Adrian Klaver In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 6/4/24 08:25, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 10:43 AM Adrian Klaver > wrote: > > On 6/4/24 05:13, Ron Johnson wrote: > > It doesn't support compression nor restore reordering like the > custom > > format, so I'm having trouble seeing why it still exists (at least > > without a doc warning that it's obsolete). > > pg_dump -d test -U postgres -Ft  | gzip --stdout > test.tgz > > > Who's got meaningful databases that small anymore? > > And if you've got meaningfully sized databases, open port 5432 and move > them using pg_dump. If you don't need the tar format then don't use it. -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com