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To: Sam Gendler <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: issue/bug management, project management, people management, product management all in one, preferably open source software ?
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 07:57:31 +0100
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On 5/22/25 19:50, Sam Gendler wrote:
> I think the closest you would get to a single product for all that is
> a single suite of products which are reasonably well-integrated.
> issue, project, and product management are almost always combined
> unless you are just using github issue tracking or the like. Jira
> certainly covers all of those. And it will integrate with vanilla
> git, though you will lose functionality compared to the integrations
> with github and bitbucket simply because vanilla git lacks features
> compared to those. The rest of the atlassian product suite adds
> plenty of functionality around the rest of the stuff you are asking
> for. But it's hard to imagine you haven't already considered
> atlassian, so I assume you are looking for a recommendation for
> something other than that, but I can't think of anything I've used
> that is actually better (and I say that as someone who doesn't really
> like Jira, either). It's a pretty low bar, admittedly.
>
> Jira is one of those products, like SalesForce, which is enormously
> powerful, but only after you've customized the heck out of it because
> that is how it is intended to be used. Massively flexible,
> configurable, and automatable, the setup out of the box is far from
> optimal for most teams. You really have to know what you want and
> tell the software how to set itself up to support that. And it helps
> if you have an agile-esque project management methodology as it is
> certainly developed with that in mind. It isn't going to dictate to
> you how to manage issues, projects, and products. It will very
> flexibly allow you to set it up to work with it in almost any way you
> like - but you have to have someone become something of an expert in
> the platform AND you have to have a very concrete understanding of
> exactly how you want to use it or you end up with the wishy washy, not
> very effective project and issue management workflows dictated by the
> default configuration, which is very lowest common denominator.
Thank you! I can see the eternal trade-off : features (we take) VS
complexity of usage (we give). Thing is , I do a lot of things , lots of
roles, but project mgmt is a must, so someone , somewhere must bite the
bullet sooner or later.
I will definitely consider this JIRA !
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 10:52 AM Achilleas Mantzios
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi people
>
> I'd like to know if people here know of or use any integrated
> solution
> for all or some of the above. It would be nice if it supported LDAP /
> OAuth 2.0 , integrate with plain vanilla git (not github / gitlab)
> and
> be open, and active as a project.
>
> We are at a phase our business is expanding, the projects also are
> increasing in number and size, several of those are interconnected,
> either depending or prerequisite or even inter-meshed .
>
> I'd like to have a tool to manage all this, but also a tool to
> show to
> the stakeholders the actual picture of our system.
>
> I'd be grateful for any hints !
>
>
>
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