From: Andrew Gierth <andrew@tao11.riddles.org.uk>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>,  pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: v12 and pg_restore -f-
In-Reply-To: <28770.1570394593@sss.pgh.pa.us> (Tom Lane's message of "Sun, 06
	Oct 2019 16:43:13 -0400")
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>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:

 Tom> Perhaps we could change the back branches so that they interpret
 Tom> "-f -" as "write to stdout", but without enforcing that you use
 Tom> that syntax.

We should definitely do that.

 Tom> Alternatively, we could revert the v12 behavior change. On the
 Tom> whole that might be the wiser course. I do not think the costs and
 Tom> benefits of this change were all that carefully thought through.

Failing to specify -d is a _really fricking common_ mistake for
inexperienced users, who may not realize that the fact that they're
seeing a ton of SQL on their terminal is not the normal result.
Seriously, this comes up on a regular basis on IRC (which is why I
suggested initially that we should do something about it).

-- 
Andrew (irc:RhodiumToad)