Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vL6yV-004SZe-0J for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 21:41:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vL6yT-002Cp4-08 for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 21:41:25 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vL6yS-002Co9-0W for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 21:41:25 +0000 Received: from fhigh-a2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.153]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vL6yM-0003uP-31 for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 21:41:24 +0000 Received: from phl-compute-11.internal (phl-compute-11.internal [10.202.2.51]) by mailfhigh.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DCC1400079; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-11.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:41:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aklaver.com; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date:date :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1763415675; x=1763502075; bh=JLEdE3RzRtQ+rHGbvSLt2XpuUIhxOCee+xMvD5lExaM=; b= I5uCM9lNV05ZdHt24qRjxh68ey3l+u6Mc+/4+Uxecm7m8IvhyKqM2gmFg/jy9jrI eZUgVraySjRAs1RrPiARgVvHGZg/isYUNZj8nnDvxTKNWRdTy4ExZmixY+mseqiI WjTgSNEPsFqnAE0XNqqvWwP3on98wybNzOg2b3RvDBVVSUzsuQoUXjfeMcF8XMoe Rih8xDAb4al1EzjKk7ss0v/Ty9Xtp41xQxRLLuqRwYAspA2bkE2wf78u00VMAMw4 Z73l+EyRtcn3a3CSiY+9q9kjfWruP77x7yx9L9mfvD3GgkMkMng+QlCvMmxmv2IE cd8/WYM005ieSFxDgepbaw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1763415675; x=1763502075; bh=J LEdE3RzRtQ+rHGbvSLt2XpuUIhxOCee+xMvD5lExaM=; b=AH6lURPFuZqMt2btG CsDuy/uxoVJyFWGPHjraPs8IUOErwYikPC4M0wM0FY0N84BHgTg0/j+3uH6yqfpk sGG+2BbDXjwA83O6sR3o6PCKo3mPJWRzwJVp7VjYHGnMXWNEAymF9zF9cu458NOI M746WtRvK23NYwnsep8ueiY7pcz64MDf0LbrA7yPtxvBUbQyZyiEBrbH5z9g5/uO RBaHX2DOxIbXMmJJIeqqc6x0OXaH8kxFCFhdnZN3G/g6taN0Oindtfy3vfh+OyHY exGZ/zV62oG6Ony0ELAe0VSMotkL8777ZzR33h6qoSDmf1t3D6UfwD32EkJkhVqW 8rJFA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdeggddvudelheejucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceu rghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtkeertd dtvdejnecuhfhrohhmpeetughrihgrnhcumfhlrghvvghruceorggurhhirghnrdhklhgr vhgvrhesrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffelgeeifefgve duhedthfekuedtffejveegffegjeevtdehgfduieetfeehjeehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfu ihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprggurhhirghnrdhklhgrvhgvrh esrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtghomhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphho uhhtpdhrtghpthhtoheprhhonhhljhhohhhnshhonhhjrhesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprh gtphhtthhopehpghhsqhhlqdhgvghnvghrrghlsehlihhsthhsrdhpohhsthhgrhgvshhq lhdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i76984098:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:41:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <97810758-0f5f-4e41-8e25-ac9dcd7a255e@aklaver.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 13:41:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: postgres in swap space To: Ron Johnson , "pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org" References: Content-Language: en-US From: Adrian Klaver In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 11/17/25 13:12, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 3:50 PM Laurenz Albe > wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-11-17 at 18:25 +0100, Marc Millas wrote: > > Can someone point me to any doc describing why and how much space > postgres uses on the swap of a debian machine ? > > it's an old postgres 10, because it is used by a product for > which only this version is certified. > > (no comment on that, please) > > I'm biting down a comment. > > > "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" works just fine (until it doesn't). The problem is when it doesn't work anymore, the work load to move to a newer version is that much greater. Keeping the version within spitting distance of the latest supported version, to me, is a good idea. > > -- > Death to , and butter sauce. > Don't boil me, I'm still alive. > lobster! -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com