Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tluhk-002l9O-2f for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:58:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tluhi-00FT5R-M9 for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:58:22 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tluhi-00FT5I-7R for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:58:22 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-x529.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::529]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1tluhf-000BT5-0e for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2025 18:58:21 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x529.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5e02eba02e8so4289404a12.0 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2025 10:58:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1740250699; x=1740855499; darn=postgresql.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=OY9+SHlj58OIwgHRJ30BBR+nZDUPbJzojGXc7D14AI8=; b=Td/B/zAlzdUYXMfoAQ/4JpUNe/9XqQXtoxP0MEmlexjz5GH0Xnh5E0HCpqRpOCn/3e hW4fJFoy+FW0TFjnhO7hgTtfyEbw0l4iVgZ/m2hamnGDCJJGynj89s5PfIMl/PWHWlog r0JC6d13MgaOhB5k3/3PZOGLJEFc7lgsYC8Bfh/eqker0CRTsae1WoINFklwCqBMCQXi k399CZ2NAsKSZzveAMc+mi4g75PwyJwf72P5FprcEvuXRXuocwDPZSKEyaEI7b1RIw7o 6dvCU42APUbfuR7iYg4VRaUEt/+ie2UEMThZHznBYmzAQ55zF9SmHV6TzXJyNoGR7+cG humQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1740250699; x=1740855499; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=OY9+SHlj58OIwgHRJ30BBR+nZDUPbJzojGXc7D14AI8=; b=AK6mjt62yvO3JiokhyyxVTEC0bKv4mzwpjViEpXLn8v6gBdw0k7rrled7LWijDJ36u vRUSyJsPOOYPvnpScuwzNMEyDeMjB53ZNx+UtrNDpYp/yR/kjcNQMG/9bQ5hBnTVNmrN nWWEDJ6BPVE9cSJdw3I4V2Z+ps3d+A+GB8eaRgXDP1yr4sx+hAy+gRkYJrhonWHF8prg 7p62oTOSs4TSMmia4S+Rj3q7gISAZ4LQKSrjcQRi51MZLCCpFFd5emYoaFedbEebl70j 6DZ+2Pfa4sm9UJNw6xq96jkOFYsBll8GH5CHA6Bimrx1CdAY/U7U30ZvPHnsgCqPSGlM IWmg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyYIvu7qQTV7Nv/UU5Q/Nr1sJiYGNs7scsKG23W5UpFi7mOFHHQ 8FvyyPxhtmr4SMKSXRqIf6tmBRRtFuatMKXfbK7kpfuiwf9cStsShfIcL5vXJLnRXeAoodsnLAE C/nqd5J3ioJ4I188OO7vm/B5PzYXDdwlyUKs= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuiTk6smJZt9YPywdyNA0yurBsZQxPO0sKTsMAovhnrgK5u7aVnyYPhmbMp2zj p2bqPzU0iBG0X7X7kdVrqX9qkMCQw2cT3uvRApwpWjMP3Eq8JMFzUpEiwVQ+4W+P5PyTXlZLddS 8LRXMHcgy1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFaEePMSzp/AnobvVEzErmPDs84MdaknCMCvWevJthfIOxmTqkSI1ok302E4zcpWaPJKvPubKn2Baw5zqtbHl4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1f08:b0:5dc:ebb8:fe64 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5e0b70d66e7mr6101305a12.14.1740250698119; Sat, 22 Feb 2025 10:58:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alexander Farber Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 19:58:07 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZkqxiRvCUE-bfC-evQR0p9v8lLbcAKjGjvhAf7HzxW06g5rlh8f6rw6Tko Message-ID: Subject: Azure Database for PostgreSQL flexible server vs other Azure offerings To: pgsql-general Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ae81d5062ebfb0e5" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --000000000000ae81d5062ebfb0e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Good evening, I am trying to convince my team (a small team at a big company) to move from Azure Redis E10 to PostgreSQL, because I am tired of seeing how we (poorly) try to re-invent an SQL database using Redis. My problem is that the team does not want and I am the only one liking SQL databases and especially PostgreSQL (using it for hobby projects since version 8, always a single instance with a pg_bouncer). I have spent 3 weeks including my weekends and prepared a PoC currently using 2 official PostgreSQL docker hub images in our AKS, but that setup looks toyish vs the expensive managed Redis E10. I would like to switch to the most official and supported Azure offering (and the money kind of does not matter), but a bit confused by the 3 Microsoft offerings I see: - https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/postgresql "Azure Database for PostgreSQL" - this one scares me be talking about AI that we do not need. Also it looks more like some abstract product or is it a real setup? - "Azure Database for PostgreSQL Single Server" - I would take that, but it is obsolete/deprecated? - "Azure Database for PostgreSQL Flexible Server" - Looks like I have to take this one, but I do not want all the replication/zones features, because I have no experience there and we already have had enough headache with Redis Enterprise and some hashes not being saved because they are on different shards etc. Our setup: we need 2 databases with 3 and with 6 tables and few stored procedures and at the beginning they do not even to be permanent (it is ok to be empty on the pipeline deployment). Max 100 client connections. It would be nice to be able to scale up / scale down. So my question is: who is using what for PostgreSQL on Azure and how happy/unhappy are you with your product? Best regards Alex --000000000000ae81d5062ebfb0e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening,

I am trying to = convince my team (a small team at a big company) to move from Azure Redis E= 10 to PostgreSQL, because I am tired of seeing how we (poorly) try to re-in= vent an SQL database using Redis.

My problem is th= at the team does not want and I am the only one liking SQL databases and es= pecially PostgreSQL (using it for hobby projects since version 8, always a = single instance with a pg_bouncer).

I have spent 3= weeks including my weekends and prepared a PoC currently using 2 official = PostgreSQL docker hub images in our AKS, but that setup looks toyish vs the= expensive managed Redis E10.

I would like to swit= ch to the most official and supported Azure offering (and the money kind of= does not matter), but a bit confused by the 3 Microsoft offerings I see:
-=C2=A0https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/postgresql "Azure D= atabase for PostgreSQL" - this one scares me be talking about AI that = we do not need. Also it looks more like some abstract product or is it a re= al setup?

- "Azure Database for PostgreSQL Si= ngle Server" - I would take that, but it is obsolete/deprecated?
- "Azure Database for PostgreSQL Flexible Server" - Looks like = I have to take this one, but I do not want all the replication/zones featur= es, because I have no experience there and we already have had enough heada= che with Redis Enterprise and some hashes not being saved because they are = on different shards etc.

Our setup: we need 2 databases with 3 and w= ith 6 tables and few stored procedures and at the beginning they do not eve= n to be permanent (it is ok to be empty on the pipeline deployment). Max 10= 0 client connections. It would be nice to be able to scale up / scale down.=

So my question is: who is using what for PostgreSQL on Azure and ho= w happy/unhappy are you with your product?

Best re= gards
Alex
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