Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sURGi-0032YB-Ce for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 13:34:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sURGg-00GPBc-CB for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 13:33:58 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sURGg-00GP9C-0R for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 13:33:58 +0000 Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sURGd-000CnB-To for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 13:33:57 +0000 Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-52ea2b6a9f5so373626e87.0 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 06:33:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1721309635; x=1721914435; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9sWcNloOCREWSEBl9x8YD1tOGdAoGyYBA8eqb2rbCyg=; b=eFlDttqmODYrEUxh/8RScpSyhoJWd7409YuzWakwwV+rKrgLsWNsGWx7Tq9kcBAl1t KcOJKPRsdSvj7SLSF6DKtNvvIvQFvQuWwnncQuzyrIgVW7dogT4KYkpaEL9dlB79wH00 ytMy/+ZKVL4WZj1d60esMbT7FFBDo8deWdcM6u3wvEX9ewANUKFKSYYB/063/N5rTpt0 97j6c/MFHBo0x+fkHUUSsXPbOrkL3IyjaTzVUpT5fckgFfJ0SKYQRcBjqZXXsAnd6+mh O2o4/LLUWDhZEQUsDfmROq6WV4VYi5pK33uLCyuLI1yIcUjQpPxzJBYobuRPCOMOxll8 4kVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1721309635; x=1721914435; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=9sWcNloOCREWSEBl9x8YD1tOGdAoGyYBA8eqb2rbCyg=; b=XDBwosxGMuLfN4fGIg1GcBUmIT0K3KZUiUf3zYybgOz2v/rfln9ZkH50yVxIn8agcj hwi5PezjKuWaSZAd+X5Whab0S+/Zs5ODF1oY5uAjq5H2/5DnZq0CPEzz6DghY76SWcSF H7MShJwzx6tBOJ0tJVupXtK1v5GlTYehdZJH7vX98CdJJcvLJQRYA0jsLZPyNZ8Phaw5 A16cUTSs+IGmu8gdj1q7oR6y16Ag5hS7jOgrtBbgvoB61w8Chxk2NmyzTiFctWmSGVHR W3w+78tKDuFv07LYrafq+FEtOdFgOSUL2OgHdkIS9LaBk2mJSUm3miKsj0ylHb4kPoA4 2ekQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVwMV8PAgHK/csNf2W+FZwsv7JTQpIYluxhnO5vzKBCT25ejZftA6SGWNPwmaguvaQ/WyP8NKwwcL7r5Qyp3wnyCN4S0t4Y8CTVU+w8gyQbYLVK X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxtBNPhNJv+6gkzpeRaS72g2pVuB/JTyGA6QB+cJoNd5zNTOomz qV/bbsciWOqtD+mBkfK/yH2WM3ofTuVGdQeVMjl3E5Te8UKZ5FwxokaP5SeYElEW7Nh+2i7aClj 4zKlil/hYkVdJkeTMoAZ4Y2rVszo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHNlyLwJPJ9xrjjR53OO/Af5/6Emvyuu5f0aY+NiEcPPvq7QBn7a2K2eJu8xSQcVAB5GG6FWxJTIRM2doMLNo0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3a87:b0:52e:7ef1:7c6e with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-52ee5429389mr3476807e87.51.1721309634682; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: David Rowley Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 01:33:42 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI To: Laurenz Albe Cc: Greg Sabino Mullane , pgsql-general Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 at 00:31, Laurenz Albe wrote: > Perhaps there could be a way to report misleading, bad content and a policy that says > that you can be banned if you repeatedly write grossly misleading and counterfactual > content. Stuff like "to improve performance, set fast_mode = on and restart the database". As a first step, maybe it's worth just privately writing to the offenders telling them what's been seen, giving them a chance to improve and letting them know what they're doing isn't going unnoticed. If I was doing this and someone pointed out lots of silly mistakes with something I'd published, I'd be very embarrassed and I'd reconsider my blog writing approach. It might also be worth considering if we want to have a policy on LLM usage in https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/planet-postgresql/ . If we want to disallow blogs written by LLMs then we'd need to be careful about how we define that as doing something like using an LLM-based spell checker does not seem like it should be disallowed. But to what degree exactly should that be allowed? David