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However this leads certain side effects and > complications; due to the nature of the HTTPS connection model, it is > not possible to act as an intermediate server (e.g. caching proxy) by > the same rules as with HTTP:" > > "Considering these difficulties, there are three (and a half) methods to > use SSL." > I have no problem believing that - it's just that this "just worked"=E2=84= =A2 for the last 8 or so years, and apt-cacher hasn't seen any changes/updates in years, the source it's built from on our Ubuntu instance is from 2022, which makes me think something may have changed on the repo site. Cheers, Andrej --=20 Please don't top post, and don't use HTML e-Mail :} Make your quotes concise. http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/email-style.html --00000000000050fbb0063511d994 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, 14 May = 2025 at 12:25, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
> The problem seems to go away when I change= the sources list to utilise
> https:// instead of the previous default, http://

I don't see that issue on the three Ubuntu machines I have Postgres installed from PGDG.

My guess you are seeing this due to apt-cacher-ng.

=C2=A0From here:

https://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~bloc= h/acng/html/howtos.html#ssluse

"It is possible to have encrypted access to remote sites via HTTPS protocol with recent versions of apt-cacher-ng if the OpenSSL support
was enabled at compile time. However this leads certain side effects and complications; due to the nature of the HTTPS connection model, it is
not possible to act as an intermediate server (e.g. caching proxy) by
the same rules as with HTTP:"

"Considering these difficulties, there are three (and a half) methods = to
use SSL."
I have no problem believing that - it&#= 39;s just that this "just worked"=E2=84=A2 for the last 8 or so y= ears,
and apt-cacher hasn't seen any changes/updates in years= , the source it's built from on
our Ubuntu instance is from 2= 022, which makes me think something may have changed
on the repo = site.

Cheers,
Andrej

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