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From: Nick Canale <nick.canale@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 09:11:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: Can't install Postgres version 18
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I would recommend either installing it on WSL or through docker or both. If
you're not familiar with WSL or docker this would be a great opportunity to
learn about them!

On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 9:01=E2=80=AFAM Arbol One <arbolone@hotmail.ca> wro=
te:

> I would also strongly recommend Linux over MacOS or WinOS. Having said
> that, I have also uninstalled PosgreSQL on my WinOS machine, so I find yo=
ur
> advice proper and accurate.
>
> Verily, with every difficulty there is relief (94:6)
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Anthony DeBarros <anthonymdebarros@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* June 15, 2026 8:45 AM
> *To:* pgsql-general@postgresql.org <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Can't install Postgres version 18
>
> Hello,
>
> On Jun 14, 2026 at 6:12:52=E2=80=AFAM, Jan Karremans <karremans.ja@gmail.=
com>
> wrote:
>
> I would simply recommend not to run Postgres on Windows. You are mixing
> two distinctly different approaches to IT-systems. In that sense Linux is
> so much more akin to the world Postgres lives in.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
>
> Absolutely true. However, it=E2=80=99s good that EDB has provided a Windo=
ws
> installer for PostgreSQL because nearly 2/3 of personal computer users ru=
n
> Windows, and many, many people who are setting out to learn database
> programming run on it.
>
> That said, I have two observations, both related to experiences as author
> of a book about learning SQL:
>
>
>    1. I have installed and uninstalled PostgreSQL and pgAdmin on Windows
>    dozens of times and had no issues at all as long as I used the officia=
l
>    installer/uninstaller. However, the uninstaller does not completely re=
move
>    all traces of the application, so for a fully clean uninstall you must
>    remove registry entries, delete left-behind application directories, e=
tc.
>
>    2. Using PostgreSQL under Windows is far more complicated than running
>    it on macOS, where you can install PostgresApp and get up and running =
in
>    just minutes with very little to fiddle with. And that app is getting
>    better all the time with support for Postgres extensions. I steer ever=
yone
>    towards Macs these days.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anthony DeBarros
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would recommend either=C2=A0installing it on WSL or thro=
ugh docker or both. If you&#39;re not familiar with WSL or docker this woul=
d be a great opportunity to learn about them!</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, =
Jun 15, 2026 at 9:01=E2=80=AFAM Arbol One &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arbolone@ho=
tmail.ca">arbolone@hotmail.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg5342371589960559732">


<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I would also strongly recommend Linux over MacOS or WinOS. Having said that=
, I have also uninstalled PosgreSQL on my WinOS machine, so I find your adv=
ice proper and accurate.</div>
<div id=3D"m_5342371589960559732Signature">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div>Verily, with every difficulty there is relief (94:6) </div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_5342371589960559732appendonsend"></div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_5342371589960559732divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> =
Anthony DeBarros &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:anthonymdebarros@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">anthonymdebarros@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> June 15, 2026 8:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pgsql-general@postgresql.org" target=3D"_blank=
">pgsql-general@postgresql.org</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pgsql-general@post=
gresql.org" target=3D"_blank">pgsql-general@postgresql.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Can&#39;t install Postgres version 18</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Jun 14, 2026 at 6:12:52=E2=80=AFAM, Jan Karremans &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:karremans.ja@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">karremans.ja@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>I would simply recommend not to run Postgres on Windows. You are mixin=
g two distinctly different approaches to IT-systems. In that sense Linux is=
 so much more akin to the world Postgres lives in.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jan<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Absolutely true. However, it=E2=80=99s good that EDB has p=
rovided a Windows installer for PostgreSQL because nearly 2/3 of personal c=
omputer users run Windows, and many, many people who are setting out to lea=
rn database programming
 run on it.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">That said, I have two observations, both related to experi=
ences as author of a book about learning SQL:</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<ol start=3D"1" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin:0px">
<li>I have installed and uninstalled PostgreSQL and pgAdmin on Windows doze=
ns of times and had no issues at all as long as I used the official install=
er/uninstaller. However, the uninstaller does not completely remove all tra=
ces of the application, so for a
 fully clean uninstall you must remove registry entries, delete left-behind=
 application directories, etc.<br>
<br>
</li><li>Using PostgreSQL under Windows is far more complicated than runnin=
g it on macOS, where you can install PostgresApp and get up and running in =
just minutes with very little to fiddle with. And that app is getting bette=
r all the time with support for Postgres
 extensions. I steer everyone towards Macs these days.</li></ol>
<div><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anthony DeBarros</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>

</div></blockquote></div>

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