Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uqngh-00DM0m-Ot for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:01:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uqngh-0026Ob-6k for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:01:47 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uqngg-0026OT-Qo for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:01:47 +0000 Received: from mail-oi1-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::233]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uqnge-001nTn-0i for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:01:46 +0000 Received: by mail-oi1-x233.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-435d3a45a3fso3528143b6e.1 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 00:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1756191704; x=1756796504; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=u5wEq+Nab3sPrs4ybZZw0OjHBAaD2HqY63oxmxs1Iok=; b=M/KTyQlbLEpj8E1beLFgPJwmGXAyaX7+B5/SrjumKhqnLfHSn7jGLLqmOcKUnCumQH 9vJYIIviqFmFkNg5Vf5w828ghaJ3fCamZhdr3TQ4bHlzkPsCEEUB1ILnMf9zs2qsamIc fZ0kqe0A7Tkod3aDpxo9hE1SVP1EIVEp3EEi03cZkrpXQMrOkGjjSTMHR+fQa3oqgxzZ ChJHc3cqPF9TenwkGhtiwNppF2Hq0e9YEocCC4+oufnTNm9f2jA4QLgAAqvPQpV65pU2 4dsCaTBNbXh4YiTLTwX/2P1vjNvF4cbyhBKMh5IfA624a6GW41k5HEWhCGjGW1oFTaAi Fkig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1756191704; x=1756796504; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=u5wEq+Nab3sPrs4ybZZw0OjHBAaD2HqY63oxmxs1Iok=; b=TQlzdOk2AeglOuH7fQrFlWkhpx1fkFblU+Qs8tfNBEu2yOh7oQvEXo8Kq1aK3svyM8 LzqBl2sWtWt8uI8VjvBxOqkVAjGuBLM0Dh62NdkoU0xXbmjD3r8bu13UvKOWt3EYccg9 uAwCzXb7jgCOqqojPepuznWycCAQ5lUMWCbko0hyed90/KckWHp6rCkZRyDfwnjtU7dK A6lF+NC0PB6ndESju2+oeEAuvEZcP027UYLyEp9gWa6sX7t36yflnLVFET1RFRuGsyU5 DghNHGLeN7yxW3buca0Fb8DVjDshO2KcH0o6cBtwC8EqljkHCxHRT5z3jc2a4IGURHjN oM8A== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVVTEY5+SWW3uaBD8k69iSmxNXaDOkYWa8oKrcgmpByAR2UVrBV9CUgpbqqAr/xqTjTIetJxuZBar5/ThoV@lists.postgresql.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyY+TcsZRBywtBMNfka1D4rNDIfvFc4sFZRrksZ8l5LOcKQtpH4 Dr1tx7/aO/ECjRXWHAMO3mzD4bFwoIpymB8RclKU+MCKeumfJgPceKO6mQfZ4Ukih8nYFcqCzOL 95EurVto7+sIOTaQzCfdkR7RcYbfkZUk= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvg/RRp23a+hPNi0K1weOWmTRKcGfJuyqNJDP1IibN+Sg8cLYm1n3i8fHVFmcR TPEDaH79bXlXxCGwOvIyhgKIKHbieYueC8RZ3GINvRfnygbOQqJ/0AwN9B+IGP+2xmaYNjqSJOv uSe2K8IUzpALCkO3P7CtbRmMe4rwR9NWWSzcKlE3LdfxGYay99VmodhRypAjZsDNl+Wtg1e7f8C dHf9Rkkqg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF/t+8Ydcre+SFjuYwxpNepCNOcNkUGTN+5gZZUsybsBrVXXm7pzSDFY3OZqAndGCeiB/oQV9z94As/wLL4LjA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:3508:b0:437:75ea:6c7b with SMTP id 5614622812f47-437c5443995mr228110b6e.24.1756191703430; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 00:01:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <185dd861-4e5a-47c0-9f2e-84dfa8a406ca@postgrespro.ru> <26239cd6-a13d-4137-9f1d-61e18c4cf0e6@aklaver.com> In-Reply-To: <26239cd6-a13d-4137-9f1d-61e18c4cf0e6@aklaver.com> From: Dominique Devienne Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:01:32 +0200 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXzr_MnGh6KSTyHhXh4JMm8rnLCJhGaovChC2_4wj1picFUdgFhZIGLEGZ0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DISABLE TRIGGER doc wrong? To: Adrian Klaver Cc: Pavel Luzanov , pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Adrian Klaver wrote: > On 8/25/25 10:24, Dominique Devienne wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 7:13=E2=80=AFPM Pavel Luzanov wrote: > >> On 25.08.2025 19:19, Dominique Devienne wrote: > >> Simple experiment shows that it is still up to date: Thanks Pavel. Indeed. See below. > I am not seeing it: Thanks Adrian. Indeed, it was my mistake. I thought the 4 tables we had USER triggers on also had FKs, but I was mist= aken. I just tried on the 5th (and last) one we're adding triggers on, which does have an FK, and I do get the documented (and verified by you guys) error: ERROR: permission denied: "RI_ConstraintTrigger_c_1226298044" is a system trigger (yes, that's a large OID... For a 1 year old DB) I apologize for wasting your time. Thanks, --DD