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help / color / mirror / Atom feedFrom: Chris Travers <[email protected]>
To: Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
Cc: Clay Jackson (cjackson) <[email protected]>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
Cc: pgsql-general <[email protected]>
Cc: Kai Wagner <[email protected]>
Cc: Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>
Cc: Ron Johnson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 11:18:43 +0700
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I maintain that the way forward is to get TDE in core. Perhaps someone
could pick up the previous patches and try to push them again
Best Wishes,
Chris Travers
On Sat, Nov 1, 2025, 8:36 AM Christophe Pettus <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 31, 2025, at 17:24, Clay Jackson (cjackson) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I can't disagree - but the question them becomes, as Markus and other
> have pointed out; would that allow a customer/user to check the
> "Encryption" box for PCI or any other "compliance review"
>
> The answer is: it depends (doesn't it always?). Doing secure column-level
> encryption meets the PCI standard, and a competent PCI auditor will know
> that. However, TDE has this cache as being "the way one does it," and if
> the organization is that way, it's hard to move them off of it.
>
> As a sign of how the PCI world views TDE, at least one of the major credit
> card associations does not use it, and they have literally everyone's
> credit card number, with expiration date and CVV, sitting on their disks.
>
>
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