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It's either you do it or I won't certif= y > you, and you won't be able to use the application. > > That's how a certification body works, and there's nothing I can do > about it. > > Can you articulate the specific requirement? I assume it's not "the > database can be backed up completely by issuing an SQL command." But it is! That's exactly how you -- and IIRC *the only* way to -- backup SQL Server databases (typically from Agent, which is like pg_cron but much more featureful, and completely integrated into SSMS and SQL Server). Every CLI or GUI method of doing a backup calls BACKUP DATABASE and/or BACKUP LOG behind the scenes. --=20 Death to , and butter sauce. Don't boil me, I'm still alive. lobster! --00000000000071e35b06494f70cf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 1:42=E2=80=AFPM C= hristophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com> wrote:


> On Jan 26, 2026, at 10:37,
felix.quintgz@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I can't change my expectations. It's either you do it or I won= 't certify you, and you won't be able to use the application.
> That's how a certification body works, and there's nothing I c= an do about it.

Can you articulate the specific requirement?=C2=A0 I assume it's not &q= uot;the database can be backed up completely by issuing an SQL command.&quo= t;=C2=A0

But it is!=C2=A0 That's exact= ly how you -- and IIRC the only way to=C2=A0-- backup SQL Server dat= abases (typically from Agent, which is like pg_cron but much more featurefu= l,=C2=A0and completely integrated into SSMS and SQL Server).=C2=A0 Every CL= I or GUI method of doing a backup calls BACKUP DATABASE and/or BACKUP LOG b= ehind the scenes.

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Death to <Redacted>, and butter sauce.
Don't boil me= , I'm still alive.
<Redacted> lobster!
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