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From: Clay Jackson (cjackson) <[email protected]>
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
To: Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
Cc: Kai Wagner <[email protected]>
Cc: Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>
Cc: Ron Johnson <[email protected]>
Cc: pgsql-general <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 17:32:23 +0000
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Pardo me for jumping in here - but would filesystem level encryption possibly meet your requirements?

Clay Jackson
Database Solutions Sales Engineer
[email protected]
office  949-754-1203  mobile 425-802-9603

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2025 10:06 AM
To: Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
Cc: Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>; Kai Wagner <[email protected]>; Laurenz Albe <[email protected]>; Ron Johnson <[email protected]>; pgsql-general <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 10:04:35AM -0700, Christophe Pettus wrote:
>
>
> > On Oct 31, 2025, at 08:21, Adrian Klaver <[email protected]>
> > wrote:  Yeah, what I would like to know is how many of the data
> > breaches actually grab directly from the storage versus getting it
> > through the database or other software above the storage?
>
> Essentially zero.
>
> PCI, like a lot of data security standards, are a magpie's assemblage
> of things that the authors have heard about all of which sound
> "secure" to them.  However, since these particular magpies have
> machine guns (metaphorically) and can do serious damage to businesses,
> we must play along with the masquerade.

Yes, we have been avoiding the masquerade for years.  The question is can we continue.  From the lack of discussion since April 1, 2025, it seems the answer is yes.


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