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To: Christophe Pettus <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: pgvector as standard PostgreSQL feature?
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 08:39:54 +0000
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Go it, makes total sense.
So pgvector etc will probably remain an extension for a while.
Thanks for the note about BIT type.
I have missed that it's a standard built-in type.
Seb
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Subject: Re: pgvector as standard PostgreSQL feature?
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> On Mar 19, 2025, at 07:47, Sebastien Flaesch <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Is there a plan to get pgvector's types (vector, halfvec, sparsevec, bit) implemented as native built-in data types like json/jsonb ?
(I'm speaking just for myself here.) I would not base any plans on this functionality being available in the PostgreSQL core in the near future (and by "near future," I mean the next five years).
1. You list three different extensions with overlapping functionality, and that's a good sign that there isn't consensus on what the features that would be offered in core should be.
2. Adding a type to the core distribution (or even to contrib/) creates a maintenance burden on the core developers, and that's not something assumed lightly. Once a type is in core, it (almost) never can be removed, and the more specialized the type and detailed the implementation, the greater the risk that the developers who know and care about it won't be available in the future. Search the archives for a discussion of the "money" type for what happens when a type added to core starts becoming ill-supported... and "money" isn't anywhere near as complex as vector functionality.
3. PostgreSQL is designed to have a rich ecosystem of extensions. The ability to add this kind of functionality in an extension is exactly what distinguishes PostgreSQL from many other RDBMS systems. There's no burning need to add functionality like this to core.
It is true that hosted environments take time to adopt new extensions (although AWS RDS has supported pgvector for nearly two years now), but that's not in itself a reason to move things into core.
> Side note: I have some doubts about these type names, especially "bit" ... why not "bitvec"?
BIT and BIT VARYING are the SQL standard names for these types.
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