Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sbbIe-0006uO-85 for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 07:41:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sbbIc-005Ou8-LG for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 07:41:34 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sbbIc-005Otz-AE for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 07:41:34 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sbbIZ-003axH-N5 for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 07:41:33 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05005725AF for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 09:41:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s981.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.6]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4464710DD; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 09:41:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s472.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s981.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E265822B168B; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 09:41:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s472.loopia.se (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s979.loopia.se ([172.22.191.6]) by s472.loopia.se (s472.loopia.se [172.22.190.12]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Z5c8pWrodb8H; Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:41:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.193 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-193.stosn.net [89.255.232.193]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s979.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D8A610BC3C0; Wed, 07 Aug 2024 09:41:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1723016489; bh=hSkIULvGhRgRGlSd4vBCMDOLex6a+RiFkcLnLtFVJ0s=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=rYSFhnsH/6ZSnRzHozUJekagmBL+497ZyxyEsU4fBq67zPU+aRXo/I/dUI2ZpUmxK RA7IDJO64ipIWp+b6B8tRzBKm322kN25akyEnKf6LVpVz1cfPwKZDZQDeBey/6qRo4 jVnxtVJjnoOtAAJgqRunqdu6UAg2drgT4/9b/KRJfNXPhyHzTGu6a5ZVxVUXPzTSrZ 3FPZX9TH6sMs7KyACfzE2I183a8/g5CmQyIol5XgSPvGLkJhwMsLE7MNlTsiYq9LCJ p5JJJGm/g/tYJJSbuCquRF77Z8jC+SUwKoSAQtgpS5CneKLiAdWI5nVfB6/Hk/jZIc JMh7TmnU0QuTQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.600.62\)) Subject: Re: data checksums From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: <15AB8DDB-7D4B-4272-801F-F5DD84E829E6@thebuild.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:41:18 +0200 Cc: bruno vieira da silva , pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <15AB8DDB-7D4B-4272-801F-F5DD84E829E6@thebuild.com> To: Christophe Pettus X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.600.62) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 6 Aug 2024, at 18:29, Christophe Pettus wrote: >> On Aug 6, 2024, at 08:11, bruno vieira da silva = wrote: >> the pg doc=20 >> mentions a considerable performance penality, how considerable it is? >=20 > That line is probably somewhat out of date at this point. We haven't = seen a significant slowdown in enabling them on any modern hardware. I = always turn them on, except on the type of filesystems/hardware = mentioned above. The last in-depth analysis of data checksums (and hint bits) overhead = that I can remember is from 2019: = https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20190330192543.GH4719%40development Hardware advances in the last five years may very well have made these = findings irrelevant however. -- Daniel Gustafsson