Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:13:26 +0200 (CEST)
From: Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@visena.com>
To: Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>,
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Subject: Re: Effects of REVOKE SELECT ON ALL TABLES IN SCHEMA pg_catalog
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P=C3=A5 torsdag 12. september 2024 kl. 16:10:26, skrev Christophe Pettus <
xof@thebuild.com <mailto:xof@thebuild.com>>:


> On Sep 12, 2024, at 06:58, Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>=20
> But if it works for you, go ahead. As Tom said, it will work 95% of the=
=20
time. But it will break things that should work, and it will not prevent th=
e=20
ability to get the information in other ways. To be clear, we never recomme=
nd=20
messing with the system catalogs, and this falls under the umbrella of mess=
ing=20
with the system catalogs.

I can only echo that if the compliance people are taking a position that "y=
ou=20
need to make an unsupported, ad-hoc modification to the database software's=
=20
authentication system in order to meet this requirement," then the requirem=
ent=20
is one that you should run, not walk, to get a waiver to, as that's a very=
=20
unreasonable position for them to take.


We're probably going down the postgres_fdw route, that seems to do the job.


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=C3=A5 torsdag 12. september 2024 kl. 16:10:26, skrev Christophe Pettus &lt=
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.8ex;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"display:inline;font-family:monospace;=
font-size:12px;"><br><br>&gt; On Sep 12, 2024, at 06:58, Greg Sabino Mullan=
e &lt;htamfids@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;=C2=A0<br>&gt; But if it works f=
or you, go ahead. As Tom said, it will work 95% of the time. But it will br=
eak things that should work, and it will not prevent the ability to get the=
 information in other ways. To be clear, we never recommend messing with th=
e system catalogs, and this falls under the umbrella of messing with the sy=
stem catalogs.<br><br>I can only echo that if the compliance people are tak=
ing a position that &quot;you need to make an unsupported, ad-hoc modificat=
ion to the database software's authentication system in order to meet this =
requirement,&quot; then the requirement is one that you should run, not wal=
k, to get a waiver to, as that's a very unreasonable position for them to t=
ake.</div></blockquote><p class=3D"visenaNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"vise=
naNormal">We're probably going down the postgres_fdw route, that seems to d=
o the job.</p><p class=3D"visenaNormal">=C2=A0</p><div class=3D"visena-emai=
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