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From: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
To: Greg Sabino Mullane <[email protected]>
Cc: Nick Cleaton <[email protected]>
Cc: PostgreSQL General <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Backups with filesystem snapshots
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:58:43 -0400
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 12:41:12PM -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 9:01 AM Nick Cleaton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     If I take an instantaneous filesystem-level snapshot of the postgres
>     data directory underneath a running postgres server, is that a safe
>     backup without doing any pg_start_backup/pg_stop_backup ?
> 
> 
> Safe, yes[*], but not particularly recommended except for special cases, like
> spinning up a fast QA cluster. For backups, use a Postgres-aware battle tested
> system like pgBackRest that offers more flexibility and more safeguards.
> 
> * Assuming your hardware/OS drivers are being honest with you about fsync
> 
> 
>     starting up from that snapshot should look the same as recovering from an
>     unclean postgres shutdown
>     due to a kernel panic.
> 
> 
> Yes, for all practical purposes it would be identical. Technically more similar
> to pulling the plug on the server. :)

Also, be careful that any tablespaces are also in the same snapshot.

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