Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHZaH-00BQnF-Gi for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 03:25:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHZaF-000Qgq-5t for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 03:25:47 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHZaE-000Qgh-Qq for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 03:25:46 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vHZaC-0060R9-2b for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 03:25:45 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2025010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description; bh=unW51HyyUsCxLA8rFdfdCIBC4ClXJLI2vNxDY7T+9LI=; b=T0fZe Yo5GbwqQ0UKA52D+dEq34XBIhjDCiHuJelinTB6DZuT9kEulPOonWbALEtoomUGh06VIO0Np5QWf8 MAudAEMPoNqoeg+8AKlIH5KnQotAsSQ2iJVdyws075yEKpQPQbdoPpupNeFYonS6ONSq7kM4RUlgK 6HMqoM7n3n1Z7zYS/s4VmigYvi5Kp5lxRblfXs7PEk8fWDhWSJGiceeQfSmy0RRULj1OJwW7XCis8 lxJiK3yAvfyxV1rlfLX24KdcwKv0Zss8TAD/o87MYbZToSf2Q8s4BfEIVenGdCHMuQ9Za3+M9Vf38 2m4Oy56rc4wSNe2myDRE7yJIdg5qg==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHZa9-00000006GvC-3ob8; Fri, 07 Nov 2025 22:25:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 22:25:41 -0500 From: Bruce Momjian To: Adrian Klaver Cc: Laurenz Albe , Kai Wagner , Chris Travers , Christophe Pettus , "Clay Jackson (cjackson)" , pgsql-general , Ron Johnson Subject: Re: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL Message-ID: References: <3DC589BC-A5F6-49BC-BFFC-F1FCB0FF7E95@thebuild.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 09:23:33PM -0800, Adrian Klaver wrote: > On 11/3/25 18:05, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 07:42:06PM +0100, Laurenz Albe wrote: > > > On Mon, 2025-11-03 at 11:56 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > The problem with the Percona extension is it seems like it was developed > > > > mostly/all by Percona employees, meaning development was driven/steered > > > > by Percona, and there was insufficient feedback from the community for > > > > it to be polished enough to be a general community solution. > > > > > Uh, people will say that if the solution is not 100% secure in its > > coverage, it is much less useful and therefore not worth it. > > > > In a different realm you have been there before and it worked out: > > https://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2010.html#May_12_2010 Yes, pg_upgrade was a hard one too, and it took a long time be accepted, so there is hope. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.