Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vExeR-004s0W-4e for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2025 22:31:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vExeQ-001SAV-2v for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2025 22:31:17 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vExeP-001SAN-OY for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2025 22:31:16 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vExeK-005JzQ-0z for pgsql-general@postgresql.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2025 22:31:16 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2025010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=AcedknjJpbFxnVwJrBr8LeYtTRh6TjU+ibQK/Qxzs4o=; b=MVt1st4oM/A21f83lPPH7B/+s+ VeNjk11jFBu9YM0HI2XzbZj6fQyRbef8uFAI0zQ13dSGZTlx9f2TcU568DfFfGAtsVMCHk9wsBXOW nijQwmfK1ZbevecM6eIYFUCePtwSkw8V62AhdrozswS1yyQlOZEQAUoKlWdNp44lh6T+xsNCsDx+i ooIezVoEM18NtCkxns2cFw9NqswmcpJLJGwNKpVbbd+RImnnZj0v9Ae3WzjYd00korlcRGBjCEMr+ xozJSLvc48RMrHOJn+r/4FE00mssWnENOB9aGv7nWz/FyAtB1QIouQUVtGeFtVd3IBPdOc0koFCXb focXDQXw==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vExeI-0000000ACcy-3lSO; Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:31:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:31:10 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Ron Johnson Cc: pgsql-general Subject: Re: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL Message-ID: References: <202510311727.f5ifxfb6ufgd@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 05:19:57PM -0400, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 4:53 PM Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 09:04:32PM +0100, Kai Wagner wrote: > We created a group several years ago, got pretty far, but ended up > stopping for reasons I stated in my blog.  I am not excited about doing > this again unless there is a clear change of community opinion, which I > have not seen. > > We're not complaining because we need TDE sooner than later, and > PGDG's opinions on TDE are well known. > > EDB and Percona are there to take our money... I understand, but historically that is not the way things normally progress. I am thinking of Oracle hints. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.