Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 11:59:47 -0500
From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
Cc: rainer@ultra-secure.de, Ken Marshall <ktm@rice.edu>,
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Subject: Re: Enquiry about TDE with PgSQL
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On Mon, Nov  3, 2025 at 08:20:21AM -0800, Adrian Klaver wrote:
> On 11/3/25 08:01, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov  3, 2025 at 04:39:45PM +0100, rainer@ultra-secure.de wrote:
> > > Am 2025-11-03 16:08, schrieb Bruce Momjian:
> 
> > I will admit that companies are better at integrating with external
> > vendors, particulary hardware vendors.  There is an organization
> > mismatch between the community and companies, and the community
> > basically forces companies to intract on community terms --- companies
> > are a more natural iteraction for other companies.
> 
> Again a distinction without a difference.
> 
> If you go here:
> 
> https://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/
> 
> and look at the names under Core Team and Major Contributors, out of 59
> names only 6 do not list a company name. Companies live at the heart of the
> community. Hence the the policy of no company having no more then 50%(?) of
> the Core team.

The issue is that interacting with external companies is rarely done by
the community, so if you need to get community software to interact with
external software, the external software vendor has to get involved with
the community, and for non-Postgres-focused external companies, that is
a big hurdle.  Companies have many employees who can make it their job
to get the integration working, as has happened with the many
company-controlled Postgres TDE solutions.

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