Message-ID: <baf4b3e0-8392-44cf-bd59-89daded84467@joeconway.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:12:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Subject: Re: glibc updarte 2.31 to 2.38
From: Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Paul Foerster <paul.foerster@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-general list <pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org>
References: <B927CE6F-0A36-4237-BD4D-75CD609F3E89@gmail.com>
 <1991352.1726758874@sss.pgh.pa.us>
 <7e5c776d-58e0-4e97-8b65-a7076ac503d4@joeconway.com>
Content-Language: en-US
Autocrypt: addr=mail@joeconway.com; keydata=
 xsFNBEpXMCsBEADDnXUQzjlyi/cX02Gtdy2CLcroE5CsC7DJKdOBDbfgn0kfiIYoV5JniG4l
 VyzZUodY8yUAagqLYolh0UkBzs9N+qkm7erde4ypw3jzVQ37BuzIvk3nMUbuDZDgxWqX+nVS
 sKc+BQ5BpzgCHg48leoRO2ohjvYnUhgH3j2rFZCzaj6qQ7mv+XoxOJmUlVQtG06Jwkk7Vu14
 7U9nMMM6hyUKzVnmCphnlcMNo26UyVU70MwFfFJgcI0c5fpp8byN56eD6VJVnufO5WAuEhzE
 qcrSJR2FAlmM90GBY+6vP29twLDCHuSFvrnujNCx/BvCC/a3/gPvyAFp4JtMm9eXAmq3m/Kw
 94nTJXVdcbQeQQDp3KIG7MmWS4lnGvPn8v0CjgNaLvZXFLo1FgmUVsyEq1Lww4iRLa6sbpXJ
 ESx15UEue1k1YZM9C+4F/o3aeKNsAienjw2EXFzcaxIg/C4P493VMi3Qa8ycVxR5iYhUbYdo
 DFIUQhbFNsYfrtW/qZAELT3FCYFpZYG01e9Hj+cBrXXgyDDkQ5Lq4mlvmkRvuxn61V6Au4HA
 0sJiCox5pM1FvzT+aI8HY1BYaiB9Pl4fhpKgmhhlSuglk9v39S4jmlUIb45iLAUVpeNM6Qjm
 69pf5da9sm4aGFa7YlDSKf/WcU7z9ITZxsilOi2n7YJiwG7kTQARAQABzSRKb3NlcGggRSBD
 b253YXkgPG1haWxAam9lY29ud2F5LmNvbT7CwXoEEwEIACQCGwMCHgECF4AFCwkIBwMFFQoJ
 CAsFFgIDAQAFAlWTVvUCGQEACgkQMyt+aLaZQ0oPCQ/9HyRewMyvAIJRmoXoLAr8AoFLId6R
 qBJnNX0Lll0RLZui65aQ0+exwX7aH7TxWR16B2gWX3OmLfGT8XITOoG+zt9zsEpLvNkHchkF
 T/jyAcbuRj5WX9hamZgMbjXAJeCdlhW+fRA9Upb0w4dgBjqK5OgsqMikASL7t2vogHl9H08j
 vSoQLW+8wTnSBXBeBTBwB7xLIin5WVivzFHUCrnD2UsjeBIW3fmGdpTAjSxRzG+UPYVwXQ8F
 FLt7DpEytvLWapmZWMRdj0WZ/Q3SOO/Ed0yFqbzuwKaWcFrQBNeS2Sig+FefBNS98f9Hx7ku
 H3DW34qX/zSSdDh0jLs7X3PkIgF6BZR2TxaCwHPP9ERDiDaUInC9U7We1iZE1DjW8rLMEVJB
 hY0ClrrF67pnUKTbcU+uajpPn+2Jl74T0Set/XxpHZ4cezcJuqg31R8vHZgd5cf1WKP0D0pc
 qiuS02BBFkNCs1jQ+raTWcDuE6F1mUO2nvjUBN9r4y5DUbCNSqLKeAe/aA6JaSDkBpoXKdNS
 +c4rbzbktWkfUW8EhVlCGzNpy4ezEoVsqV2Ex7fNoxsE2vnSylLT9hycAmYf8ryMvniRZqnD
 T4JgLenIcQlkhB896T7wApOXfD8OJj1/XFxAfPi6vdlsr81uoxuB4euLp8IyduwLORRUogO9
 zmAXG5jOwU0ESlcyJwEQAOkTBb9yDhJbMUgvhM11rZwT5tm4Y9TqtEHn0Zy3t9g7bdFFpMva
 v/KENd3oAtLFpMDf+H3AggFk4ftUwJwiVgJ88ilvCynJUGXiuYIaexY4DLgn4xpnuiEpYEFV
 dWnlw7dWVTc62exfqIz9bSWRzwfBCY9ruYGEb4RDPDSNSAVyI7sxHzef2asiYxIcxrTrw5Vu
 gWNlPZcV5/EJ6PUvATjBF2TBkXV7KOciQng2tsQGrGMkY5mduNqwpuh6zfPcVF8LeObe96wv
 5ZhPRpO79nef7hnK2lJogp3JIo558Jlbz9WHtQEMZR85+bUhtI825QyNAFz3Jrn7NMgvDikc
 2OrWo7YMgMC5hDSWVFqA6/EQCNnDWGABWgeYHZFpnPwsvUWIYdhSilUuj/Tuzvz9ZmucFNbQ
 bauDQw6VQ38ofGnoYDZFJsGncprB8dBi4tDrIQ+1RlIh6C2Z/eMipqJOT26+spluTjouvnKT
 0S5yOgyX0PjbsysgwQdCGNJLHOjhHbSpSmOLaduV3CQo/0+DHT/TBjYfIXjTWouY9TkGxG4e
 NrxU0u2xAy5bMqOPmsFdjLTWlQUlF/fTMhB54XwI3FHWgnSnXZzStDTmTebLNdT/ftgliAzA
 81uMj49j0exv731/v+7udLA1bV8gnZ01zQCASDpWiRQR3fgwcugSUqgRABEBAAHCwV8EGAEI
 AAkFAkpXMicCGwwACgkQMyt+aLaZQ0pwAQ//bjcWnZg/jjRQ9gbZUGMqniItZYRglBMKIqt4
 Fia379JmHwTvavnFkJ8XMZ56UB0FIrgS+sUkRH6cPRQR+7Qi392LD021DXgSsz9CwFHjFyBG
 HwLEOTRcfYQbtJy0shHDJB4aQTOX3ERDH1PsvJNuevmQMzS0DWFav9+xMz9rKP4N+HffoBIZ
 E0C1xIE43nD4eLsbycte9sVIrmlNuUti3qUxJAQw8HwfJ6ZbBInHxquApR16uD1u99o6Xlnd
 FrDlY22tRmHCM0bR81GfGNdcU3Uo+rG/R/k4qa7s9/dgKvMbyH3fHhp/ceKag80Xo8IFurRl
 0ZJP3sHJ2QDHCVLat7jRZ+43hi1WlIhFbrgn6IyI0i7XR/W8JjrC5MsKq4TUwGH077sU/kcH
 YebVJZRbUUst2hAGHDFVBcG12qoKf+ltL9qXJc1y7BGeCoUW6QjOpljpq6ZL4FQUsM0RSRjs
 5egE3szPcIf5SyPK6WDOApoAq6M7BBFMGDZwEylYMtr0YekA1u86UA9D2xwLHEbBBp/uiby1
 c9JbPJ1Pn8zJP8WZNeRw4Q9TtqVK09+oLirMUSpIDd6KdZ1VgRxOK2re7tjDvkVuYsSrsiJ+
 1iJNEnp9iK0ok0DlJpSCe6KhkxpaTdeoWMXdKuJWec0NIqoAd54ZgBPnr+UPxTixgPq/p6Q=
In-Reply-To: <7e5c776d-58e0-4e97-8b65-a7076ac503d4@joeconway.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/baf4b3e0-8392-44cf-bd59-89daded84467%40joeconway.com>
Precedence: bulk

On 9/19/24 13:07, Joe Conway wrote:
> On 9/19/24 11:14, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Paul Foerster <paul.foerster@gmail.com> writes:
>>> we have SLES 15.5 which has glibc 2.31. Our admin told us that
>>> he's about to install the SLES 15.6 update which contains glibc
>>> 2.38.
> 
>>> 2) Does the glibc update have any impact?
>> Maybe.  We don't really track glibc changes, so I can't say for sure,
>> but it might be advisable to reindex indexes on string columns.
> 
> 
> Every glibc major version change potentially impacts the sorting of some
> strings, which would require reindexing. Whether your actual data trips
> into any of these changes is another matter.
> 
> You could check by doing something equivalent to this on every
> collatable column with an index built on it, in every table:
> 
> 8<-----------
> WITH t(s) AS (SELECT <collatable_col> FROM <some_table> ORDER BY 1)
>    SELECT md5(string_agg(t.s, NULL)) FROM t;
> 8<-----------
> 
> Check the before and after glibc upgrade result -- if it is the same,
> you are good to go. If not, rebuild the index before *any* DML is done
> to the table.


... and I should have mentioned that in a similar way, if you have any 
tables that are partitioned by range on collatable columns, the 
partition boundaries potentially are affected. Similarly, constraints 
involving expressions on collatable columns may be affected.

-- 
Joe Conway
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com