From: "Regina Obe" <lr@pcorp.us>
To: "'Jeff Davis'" <pgsql@j-davis.com>,
	"'Robert Haas'" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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	"'Peter Eisentraut'" <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>,
	"'Sandro Santilli'" <strk@kbt.io>,
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Subject: RE: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:39:26 -0400
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> > My opinion is that the switch to using ICU by default is ill-advised
> > and should be reverted.
>=20
> Most of the complaints seem to be complaints about v15 as well, and =
while
> those complaints may be a reason to not make ICU the default, they are =
also
> an argument that we should continue to learn and try to fix those =
issues
> because they exist in an already-released version.
> Leaving it the default for now will help us fix those issues rather =
than hide
> them.
>=20
> It's still early, so we have plenty of time to revert the initdb =
default if we need
> to.
>=20
> Regards,
> 	Jeff Davis

I'm fine with that.  Sounds like it wouldn't be too hard to just pull it =
out at the end.

Before this, I didn't even know ICU existed in PG15. My first =
realization that ICU was even a thing was when my PG16 refused to =
compile without adding my ICU path to my pkg-config or putting in =
--without-icu.

So yah I suspect leaving it in a little bit longer will uncover some =
more issues and won't harm too much.

Thanks,
Regina