Received: from corvette.mascari.com (dhcp065-024-161-045.columbus.rr.com [65.24.161.45]) by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f58FS5E36096 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:28:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mascarm@mascari.com) Received: from ferrari (ferrari.mascari.com [192.168.2.1]) by corvette.mascari.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27176; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:19:23 -0400 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:24:11 -0400 Message-ID: <01C0F00D.8A800260.mascarm@mascari.com> From: Mike Mascari Reply-To: "mascarm@mascari.com" To: "'Tom Lane'" Cc: "'Tom Ivar Helbekkmo'" , Stephan Szabo , Mark Stosberg , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: RE: Re: [SQL] behavior of ' = NULL' vs. MySQL vs. Standards Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:24:10 -0400 Organization: Mascari Development Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200106/228 X-Sequence-Number: 9817 > > The best solution would be to have the ODBC translate instances of '= > > NULL' into IS NULL before submitting the query to PostgreSQL. Tom Lane wrote: > Does Access only talk to Postgres via ODBC? (Seems plausible, but I > don't know.) What about people copying-and-pasting queries generated > by Access; is it even possible? 1. Yes, Access only talkes to Postgres via ODBC. 2. The queries generate by Access which use the '= NULL' vs. 'IS NULL' language are only generated through the use of Access Forms, when some attempts to fetch a record through the forms interface where the key of the linked table is an empty edit control. When access generates queries, it correctly generates 'IS NULL' language. It is a *very specific problem* WRT the user of Access Forms. > I doubt that this'd really help much, in any case; it merely moves the > necessary switch from the backend to ODBC. It seems to me that is where it belongs. The ODBC driver is already doing translation of some Access functions not found in PostgreSQL such as LCASE->lower, etc. The kludge isn't found in any other RDBMS of which I am aware (certainly not Oracle), and yet Access works fine with them, Just MHO of course, Mike Mascari mascarm@mascari.com