Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHTn-00008K-AJ for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:19:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHTm-0002Nf-7F for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:19:46 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHTm-0002NY-01 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:19:46 +0000 Received: from mail.thelabyrinth.net ([45.56.70.56]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHTj-0003Ci-Pg for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:19:45 +0000 Received: from Davids-MacBook-Pro.local (c-73-39-102-148.hsd1.md.comcast.net [73.39.102.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dsteele) by mail.thelabyrinth.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E00DE5465C; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: language cleanups in code and docs To: Alvaro Herrera Cc: Andres Freund , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org References: <20200708211756.GA23569@alvherre.pgsql> From: David Steele Message-ID: <07e68696-7b45-37cc-4e36-4f682c80cb09@pgmasters.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:19:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200708211756.GA23569@alvherre.pgsql> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 7/8/20 5:17 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2020-Jul-08, David Steele wrote: > >> On 7/8/20 4:39 PM, Andres Freund wrote: > >> I think this phrasing in the original/updated version is pretty awkward: >> >> + A standby server that cannot be connected to until it is promoted to a >> + primary server is called a ... > > Yeah. > >> How about: >> >> + A standby server that must be promoted to a primary server before >> + accepting connections is called a ... > > How about just reducing it to "A standby server that doesn't accept > connection is called a ..."? We don't really need to explain that if > you do promote the standby it will start accept connections -- do we? > It should be pretty obvious if you promote a standby, it will cease to > be a standby in the first place. This verbiage seems excessive. Works for me. Regards, -- -David david@pgmasters.net