X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Received: from spampd.localdomain (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5411475EC9 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bob.samurai.com (bob.samurai.com [205.207.28.75]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E081474E42 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DU150.N224.ResNet.QueensU.CA (DU150.N224.ResNet.QueensU.CA [130.15.224.150]) by bob.samurai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B6B1D68; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Are we losing momentum? From: Neil Conway To: "scott.marlowe" Cc: Hannu Krosing , greg@turnstep.com, PostgreSQL Hackers In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1050961628.382.4.camel@tokyo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 21 Apr 2003 17:47:08 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-38.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200304/746 X-Sequence-Number: 38236 On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 16:26, scott.marlowe wrote: > Yet there is no equivalent materialized view that puts the data together > for the user. I don't know about you, but show table tablename is a bit > easier to grasp for beginners than the above sequence of SQL statements. Granted -- but I don't think that replacing or augmenting the system catalogs with a set of SHOW commands is a good idea (which is what you suggested originally). IMHO enhancing the system catalogs by adding views that encapsulate more of the \ command functionality into the backend is a good idea, and one that should be implemented eventually. AFAIK that's been the consensus for some time... Cheers, Neil