Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltyyf-0001aG-AP for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 20:51:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltyyd-00065j-Aq for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 20:51:03 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltyyd-00065a-31 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 20:51:03 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltyya-0006n9-MF for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 20:51:01 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15HKovJH1058643; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:50:57 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Centralizing protective copying of utility statements In-reply-to: <20210617201722.c54pjyf3mxlvamqq@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <931771.1623893989@sss.pgh.pa.us> <974666.1623943810@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1026052.1623949409@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20210617192543.fgiffbsiyxdf47iz@alap3.anarazel.de> <1040162.1623959602@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20210617201722.c54pjyf3mxlvamqq@alap3.anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Thu, 17 Jun 2021 13:17:22 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1058641.1623963057.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:50:57 -0400 Message-ID: <1058642.1623963057@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Andres Freund writes: > On 2021-06-17 15:53:22 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Uh, nobody ever promised that server-internal APIs are frozen as of beta1; >> that would be a horrid crimp on our ability to fix bugs during beta. > Sure, there's no promise. But I still think it's worth taking the amount > of breakage more into account than pre beta? Are there really so many people using the ProcessUtility hook? In a quick look on codesearch.debian.net, I found hypopg pgaudit pgextwlist pglogical which admittedly is more than none, but it's not a huge number either. I have to think that fixing this bug reliably is a more important consideration. regards, tom lane