Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIFKh-0001oo-6y for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:05:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIFKf-00047j-J5 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:05:33 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIFKf-00047c-5b for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:05:33 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIFKd-000415-7C for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:05:32 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=postgresql.org; s=20171124; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=FvGqGGVbiFIoMRiSLgFeUY9cw4S2TMVq17NFBr3rgQc=; b=oNwNN1dHduVv44iILdWONpUg+A qwFbBfmWIW6F+b1EdrwnfFNxJYgjYuTP8mOjJp8sHU8CfyJpd99k5CsDzzMmw4eP0Y+A7N0okGBA9 3w2bNktcE+cQyJy6ehrCRXETGW017o3C5EnzJalcexMR3tDS7BO8RlCNu9dL3nrLyPxWRk+oQNner BBNcQDRPZLJDqqkJVTQMsY1RN3wdvQ/15coq6aW7dIr3/u2t/+zDA2kV5Htwbf0JCJBp++Yno4q6b MFrF+Lp+zA+/5DVOSV+UTZAHip3BRZIyPowsxcrSYghZ0tWgowyeL8fsnNjuXr2axwoaeVxnuk/Qj 6ap/jF0w==; Received: from pool-173-56-10-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([173.56.10.231] helo=Ph33rHippo.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIFKa-00043Q-C5; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:05:30 +0000 Subject: Re: PG 13 release notes, first draft To: Tom Lane Cc: Masahiko Sawada , Peter Eisentraut , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development References: <20200505031600.GB21752@momjian.us> <448a382b-ae07-3126-5a08-aacda9aa28ea@postgresql.org> <63d3f3aa-e42d-dd3d-643c-2e91a13a0762@postgresql.org> <1305217.1600184757@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1306101.1600185943@sss.pgh.pa.us> <6a0737be-53a2-2505-e46e-8c4b2929fa44@postgresql.org> <1335040.1600189559@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: "Jonathan S. 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Katz" To: Tom Lane Cc: Masahiko Sawada , Peter Eisentraut , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development Message-ID: <10ed2406-11f9-8297-6e4e-2849a8fa6ed4@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: PG 13 release notes, first draft References: <20200505031600.GB21752@momjian.us> <448a382b-ae07-3126-5a08-aacda9aa28ea@postgresql.org> <63d3f3aa-e42d-dd3d-643c-2e91a13a0762@postgresql.org> <1305217.1600184757@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1306101.1600185943@sss.pgh.pa.us> <6a0737be-53a2-2505-e46e-8c4b2929fa44@postgresql.org> <1335040.1600189559@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <1335040.1600189559@sss.pgh.pa.us> --foIGoeV3jxP4irrwSfB3k5GBqgYEAFryx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B3BA7BEEB5498F70C1869741" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B3BA7BEEB5498F70C1869741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/15/20 1:05 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > "Jonathan S. Katz" writes: >> On 9/15/20 12:05 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Ah. OK, we can certainly extend it to mention that. How about >>> (not bothering with markup yet) >>> >>> Remove support for upgrading unpackaged (pre-9.1) extensions (Tom La= ne) >>> + >>> +The FROM option of CREATE EXTENSION is no longer supported. >=20 >> +1. >=20 >> With that in place, I'm more ambivalent to whether or not it's mention= ed >> in the incompatibilities section as well, though would lean towards >> having a mention of it there as it technically is one. But I don't fee= l >> too strongly about it. >=20 > After thinking a bit, I'm inclined to agree that we should move it > to "Incompatibilities". It is a core server change (third-party > extensions don't have a choice to opt out, as per postgis' issue), > and even if it's trivial, we have some even-more-trivial issues > listed there, like command tag changes. How about this? 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