X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA6A9DCB84 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:53 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67482-03 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:52 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053739DCB64 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:50 -0400 (AST) Received: (qmail 20289 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2006 05:00:50 -0000 Received: from dsl081-060-184.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO noodles) (jwbaker@[64.81.60.184]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 31 Jan 2006 05:00:50 -0000 Subject: Re: New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for From: "Jeffrey W. Baker" To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <43DEED62.4000302@commandprompt.com> References: <1138668525.643.59.camel@evim.gunduz.org> <43DEDEFB.8090409@commandprompt.com> <1138682482.12491.9.camel@noodles> <43DEED62.4000302@commandprompt.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:00:49 -0800 Message-Id: <1138683650.12551.7.camel@noodles> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.5.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.12 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120] X-Spam-Score: 0.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200601/968 X-Sequence-Number: 79072 On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:53 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Oracle's graphical installer is a material impediment to Oracle > > adoption. The installer only works on systems where particular versions > > of Java and Motif libraries are available. On 64-bit Opteron systems it > > only works with the peculiar 32-bit thunking tree favored by Red Hat and > > hardly anybody else. > > > > If I could install Oracle on Debian/AMD64 with a shell script, I'd drop > > Postgresql in a heartbeat. > > > > Obviously anybody is welcome and able to just write whatever software > > they feel is needed, but go ahead and count me among the skeptics. > > > The installer is for the 98% not the 2%. You are in the 2%. Right, and it would make FAR more sense if Oracle just shipped the whole thing, operating system and the works, on a single installer image. So why don't you just do that with Postgres? You could call it "Bootable PostgreSQL". It would be a big hit. When a new version comes out, you can just mail out a new DVD. That would be a lot better than pretending to know how to fit in, best practices and the works, with all the various Unix systems out there. -jwb