Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qHPZW-0000wJ-Ib for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:03:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qHPZV-0002tg-IX for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:03:01 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qHPZV-0002tW-9L for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:03:01 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHPZS-002YIY-EC for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:03:00 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 366E2i2o1204014; Thu, 6 Jul 2023 10:02:44 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Daniel Gustafsson cc: Matthias van de Meent , Nikolay Samokhvalov , "Kyzer Davis (kydavis)" , Peter Eisentraut , Andres Freund , Andrey Borodin , PostgreSQL Hackers , "brad@peabody.io" , "wolakk@gmail.com" Subject: Re: UUID v7 In-reply-to: <7AC9F1D2-A02B-4FF6-A331-C686C7EA244B@yesql.se> References: <20230211011453.uq2yopunpbovcbnn@awork3.anarazel.de> <5ceb7394-7488-d438-0951-fcc940feb539@enterprisedb.com> <5176A0E4-CA75-47D0-A1F3-FBC9B6116595@yesql.se> <7AC9F1D2-A02B-4FF6-A331-C686C7EA244B@yesql.se> Comments: In-reply-to Daniel Gustafsson message dated "Thu, 06 Jul 2023 15:43:06 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1204012.1688652164.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:02:44 -0400 Message-ID: <1204013.1688652164@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Daniel Gustafsson writes: > On 6 Jul 2023, at 15:29, Matthias van de Meent wrote: >> Sure, it's earlier than the actual release of >> the standard, but that wasn't a blocker for SQL features that were >> considered finalized either. > I can't speak for any SQL standard features we've committed before being > standardized, it's for sure not the norm for the project. We have done a couple of things that way recently. An important reason why we felt we could get away with that is that nowadays we have people who actually sit on the SQL committee and have reliable information on what's likely to make it into the final text of the next version. I don't think we have equivalent visibility or should have equivalent confidence about how UUID v7 standardization will play out. regards, tom lane