Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jftgP-0003IH-8N for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:17:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jftgN-00006I-Oe for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:17:27 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jftgN-0008Tg-BR; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:17:27 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jftgK-0000i6-VX; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:17:26 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=postgresql.org; s=20171124; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=knYPmxSIun41uZQUZl63svDfW7kfPsqi0kRTskhUAB4=; b=NGjqmZjkcjtiYNihzftqEBz1NS uE0Kvu1c5fEDBXV8Z4FMyJ36IZlYNlSDZvbFlIUIXeywP346HP5Kq0RDV05uHnJRThDTRO374WrYf wgcd77HbOWJI4mNF8+mzeSioORq1wDw+akF+l0vj857aPyFcvue2wTbhsViPzs28ITgWHb60daLpT SCLvdgP63/1RWeAudnSXmE1ts/6n342n7Me0uNbr5ihtIcw6uaRiXYBxVoTLSUSE2zwEkO5flojub rkYupKwfEkJMqE78mTYaUTmEjY2SoXM/O5q7Z14m3olDa2vn8AnEzdiwVCxfydrrg/7Pg0aizUnmH EIMmNVSw==; Received: from pool-173-56-10-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([173.56.10.231] helo=Ph33rHippo.local) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jftgG-0000UM-PB; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 23:17:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Another modest proposal for docs formatting: catalog descriptions To: Tom Lane , =?UTF-8?B?Sm9zZWYgxaBpbcOhbmVr?= Cc: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org, pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org References: <12984.1588643549@sss.pgh.pa.us> <506028.1591052275@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: "Jonathan S. 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Katz" To: Tom Lane , =?UTF-8?B?Sm9zZWYgxaBpbcOhbmVr?= Cc: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org, pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Message-ID: <12e922b7-b3ef-0e63-60b5-dc50bc1450f6@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: Another modest proposal for docs formatting: catalog descriptions References: <12984.1588643549@sss.pgh.pa.us> <506028.1591052275@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <506028.1591052275@sss.pgh.pa.us> --B70qxjgHt9AEcFlWATDRQ9K87x1GM41TN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/1/20 6:57 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > =3D?UTF-8?B?Sm9zZWYgxaBpbcOhbmVr?=3D writes: >> I have spotted this change recently at progress monitoring devel docs = ( >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/progress-reporting.html#CREATE-I= NDEX-PROGRESS-REPORTING). >> Current version seems a little chaotic since there are multiple tables= on >> the same page with 2 mixed layouts. Older layout (for example v12 one = - >> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/progress-reporting.html#CREATE-INDE= X-PROGRESS-REPORTING) >> is much easier to read for me. >=20 >> Is this final change? I do not see any problem on this (progress >> monitoring) page in old layout. Is there any example of problematic pa= ge? >> Maybe there's a different way to solve this. For example instead of >> in-lining long text as a column description, it should be possible to = link >> to detailed description in custom paragraph or table. See description >> column at table 27.22. at progress monitoring page for column "phase" = for >> similar approach. >=20 > I'm not planning on revisiting that work, no. And converting every > table/view description table into two (or more?) tables sure doesn't > sound like an improvement. >=20 > Perhaps there's a case for reformatting the phase-description tables > in the progress monitoring section to look more like the view tables. > (I hadn't paid much attention to them, since they weren't causing PDF > rendering problems.) On the other hand, you could argue that it's > good that they don't look like the view tables, since the info they > are presenting is fundamentally different. I don't honestly see much > wrong with the way it is now. I think it looks fine. +1 for leaving it. 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