Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHWkp-00AKQH-VF for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 00:24:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHWko-00HZgc-Bz for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 00:24:30 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vHWko-00HZgU-2E for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 00:24:30 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vHWkm-005zCJ-1Y for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2025 00:24:29 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 5A80OOtg1340547; Fri, 7 Nov 2025 19:24:24 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: Thomas Munro cc: Alexander Lakhin , Andres Freund , pgsql-hackers , greg@burd.me Subject: Re: IO in wrong state on riscv64 In-reply-to: References: <60bbebf4-0a80-4e5f-83c0-311c85f6bd5c@gmail.com> <927941c8-e5a1-4787-bbd9-88f0d92b55d0@gmail.com> <1338407.1762560226@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Thomas Munro message dated "Sat, 08 Nov 2025 13:13:32 +1300" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <1340545.1762561464.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2025 19:24:24 -0500 Message-ID: <1340546.1762561464@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Thomas Munro writes: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2025 at 1:03 PM Tom Lane wrote: >> You're a brave man to be pushing this into the last-ever release >> of v13 with all of 12 hours remaining till code freeze. I don't >> mind so much for the newer branches, but I'm feeling nervous >> about the risk/reward ratio for v13. > I figured "adding a no-op compiler barrier where we already believed > there to be a compiler barrier and rely on it crucially" was pretty > safe as these things go, but that's a good point about v13 and I can > revert it in that one branch in a couple of hours if that's the > consensus. It looks fairly safe to me too, or I'd be pushing back harder. Still, we routinely get burnt by things we push into a branch's final release, so I think it's worth having a discussion about whether this has any possible downsides. regards, tom lane