Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o89dl-0001Or-HO for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 00:08:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o89di-00032O-Sv for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 00:08:34 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o89di-00030Q-K7 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 00:08:34 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o89db-0006Mq-5j for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 00:08:31 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 26408Jfv1415826; Sun, 3 Jul 2022 20:08:20 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Thomas Munro cc: Peter Geoghegan , Andres Freund , Noah Misch , Robert Haas , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: AIX support - alignment issues In-reply-to: References: <20220702183354.a6uhja35wta7agew@alap3.anarazel.de> <968410.1656789743@sss.pgh.pa.us> <977853.1656794075@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Thomas Munro message dated "Mon, 04 Jul 2022 10:33:37 +1200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1415824.1656893299.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:08:19 -0400 Message-ID: <1415825.1656893299@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Thomas Munro writes: > On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 8:34 AM Tom Lane wrote: >> I am a little concerned though that we don't have access to the latest >> version of AIX --- that seems like a non-maintainable situation. > The release history doesn't look toooo bad on that front: the live > versions are 7.1 (2010-2023), 7.2 (2015-TBA) and 7.3 (2021-TBA). 7.3 > only came out half a year ago, slightly after Windows 11, which we > aren't testing yet either. Those GCC AIX systems seem to be provided > by IBM and the Open Source Lab at Oregon State University which has a > POWER lab providing ongoing CI services etc to various OSS projects, > so I would assume that upgrades (and retirement of the > about-to-be-desupported 7.1 system) will come along eventually. OK, we can wait awhile to see what happens on that. > I don't have a dog in this race, but AIX is clearly not in the same > category as HP-UX (and maybe Solaris is somewhere in between). AIX > runs on hardware you can buy today that got a major refresh last year > (Power 10), while HP-UX runs only on discontinued CPUs, so while it's > a no-brainer to drop HP-UX support, it's a trickier question for AIX. Yeah. FTR, I'm out of the HP-UX game: due to a hardware failure, I can no longer boot that installation. I would have preferred to keep pademelon, with its pre-C99 compiler, going until v11 is EOL, but that ain't happening. I see that EDB are still running a couple of HP-UX/IA64 animals, but I wonder if they're prepared to do anything to support those animals --- like, say, fix platform-specific bugs. Robert has definitely indicated displeasure with doing so, but I don't know if he makes the decisions on that. I would not stand in the way of dropping HP-UX and IA64 support as of v16. (I do still feel that HPPA is of interest, to keep us honest about spinlock support --- but that dual-stack arrangement that IA64 uses is surely not part of anyone's future.) I have no opinion either way about Solaris. regards, tom lane