Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWT5a-0001Ey-2R for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 18:46:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWT5Y-0001Fy-PC for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 18:46:20 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWT5W-0001FH-CX for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 18:46:18 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWT5P-0004Nc-RX for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 18:46:17 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u77Ik622014213; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:46:06 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Robert Haas cc: Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>, Aleksander Alekseev , Tomas Vondra , Pavel Stehule , PostgreSQL Hackers , David Steele Subject: Re: [Patch] Temporary tables that do not bloat pg_catalog (a.k.a fast temp tables) In-reply-to: References: <20160729141552.4062e19b@fujitsu> <39b0f423-a4df-3564-3b4a-b1de6f9eea80@2ndquadrant.com> <1184.1469890030@sss.pgh.pa.us> <5cdc3fde-d6a5-f0d2-b930-485bdcaecde5@2ndquadrant.com> <20160801124531.66cde374@fujitsu> <26c3bc60-6613-e7ab-517a-53136f01fb6c@2ndquadrant.com> <13191.1470072250@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20160804151451.6fb87507@fujitsu> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Haas message dated "Sun, 07 Aug 2016 14:35:32 -0400" Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 14:46:06 -0400 Message-ID: <14212.1470595566@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Robert Haas writes: > I think the whole idea of a fast temporary table is that there are no > catalog entries. If there are no catalog entries, then dependencies > are not visible. If there ARE catalog entries, to what do they refer? > Without a pg_class entry for the table, there's no table OID upon > which to depend. TBH, I think that the chances of such a design getting committed are not distinguishable from zero. Tables have to have OIDs; there is just too much code that assumes that. And I seriously doubt that it will work (for any large value of "work") without catalog entries. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers