Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1uY-00087S-7Z for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:01:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1uW-0004sk-Tw for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:01:32 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1uW-0004sa-Km for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:01:32 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf1uT-0005Jq-Ix for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:01:32 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 23EG1Nwf1486023; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:01:23 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Noah Misch cc: Andres Freund , Peter Geoghegan , David Rowley , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse In-reply-to: <20220414025122.GA808845@rfd.leadboat.com> References: <9F59C4BB-3C82-44B0-9B10-4A2CCC3DE552@anarazel.de> <1364997.1649893086@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1365924.1649893883@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1374062.1649896550@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414010505.s7z24jxrfsjbzz7l@alap3.anarazel.de> <1401379.1649899392@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414015112.yhruzx3dbjnz4pji@alap3.anarazel.de> <20220414025122.GA808845@rfd.leadboat.com> Comments: In-reply-to Noah Misch message dated "Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:51:22 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1486021.1649952083.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:01:23 -0400 Message-ID: <1486022.1649952083@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Noah Misch writes: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 06:51:12PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: >> Noah, any chance you could enable log_autovacuum_min_duration=3D0 on >> wrasse? > Done. Also forced hourly builds. Thanks! We now have two failing runs with the additional info [1][2], and in both, it's clear that the first autovac worker doesn't launch until 1 minute after postmaster start, by which time we're long done with the test scripts of interest. So whatever is breaking this is not an autovac worker. I think I'm going to temporarily add a couple of queries to check what tenk1's relallvisible actually is, just so we can confirm positively that that's what's causing the plan change. (I'm also curious about whether the CREATE INDEX steps manage to change it at all.) regards, tom lane [1] https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=3Dwrasse&dt=3D= 2022-04-14%2013%3A28%3A14 [2] https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=3Dwrasse&dt=3D= 2022-04-14%2004%3A48%3A13