Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf2Ie-00017u-3k for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:26:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf2Ic-0006zx-W6 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:26:27 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf2Ic-0006xb-Mh for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:26:26 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf2Ia-0004Pc-He for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:26:25 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 23EGQKGj1521389; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:26:20 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: Noah Misch , Peter Geoghegan , David Rowley , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse In-reply-to: <20220414161850.ibqkevxcv6a7vdxg@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <1364997.1649893086@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1365924.1649893883@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1374062.1649896550@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414010505.s7z24jxrfsjbzz7l@alap3.anarazel.de> <1401379.1649899392@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414015112.yhruzx3dbjnz4pji@alap3.anarazel.de> <20220414025122.GA808845@rfd.leadboat.com> <1486022.1649952083@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414161850.ibqkevxcv6a7vdxg@alap3.anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Thu, 14 Apr 2022 09:18:50 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1521387.1649953580.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:26:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1521388.1649953580@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Andres Freund writes: > Thanks! Can you repro the problem manually on wrasse, perhaps even > outside the buildfarm script? I'm working on that right now, actually... > I wonder if we should make VACUUM log the VERBOSE output at DEBUG1 > unconditionally. This is like the third bug where we needed that > information, and it's practically impossible to include in regression > output. Then we'd know what the xid horizon is, whether pages were > skipped, etc. Right at the moment it seems like we also need visibility into what CREATE INDEX is doing. I'm not sure I'd buy into permanent changes here (at least not ones made in haste), but temporarily adding more logging seems perfectly reasonable. regards, tom lane