Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCIa-0002y1-2f for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:56:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCHX-0007i2-HM for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:55:51 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCHX-0007hb-6n for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:55:51 +0000 Received: from gauss.credativ.com ([93.94.130.89]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCHT-0005yG-Qh for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:55:49 +0000 Received: from gauss.credativ.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gauss.credativ.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEA51E28BD; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:55:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from kohn.fritz.box (p4FFF1220.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.255.18.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mba@gauss.credativ.com) by gauss.credativ.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3735D1E2853; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:55:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1546080943.3394.1.camel@credativ.de> Subject: Re: Offline enabling/disabling of data checksums From: Michael Banck To: Magnus Hagander , Tomas Vondra Cc: Michael Paquier , Postgres hackers Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:55:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20181221201616.GD4974@nighthawk.caipicrew.dd-dns.de> <20181221232834.GB1948@paquier.xyz> <348aef85-a967-80d2-7bef-7274909475cf@2ndquadrant.com> <20181227232529.GA3210@paquier.xyz> Organization: credativ GmbH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1+deb9u1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Hi, Am Freitag, den 28.12.2018, 10:12 +0100 schrieb Magnus Hagander: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 1:14 AM Tomas Vondra wrote: > > On 12/28/18 12:25 AM, Michael Paquier wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 03:46:48PM +0100, Tomas Vondra wrote: > > >> On 12/27/18 11:43 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > >>> Should we double-check with packagers that this won't cause a problem? > > >>> Though the fact that it's done in a major release should make it > > >>> perfectly fine I think -- and it's a smaller change than when we did all > > >>> those xlog->wal changes... > > >>> > > >> > > >> I think it makes little sense to not rename the tool now. I'm pretty > > >> sure we'd end up doing that sooner or later anyway, and we'll just live > > >> with a misnamed tool until then. > > > > > > Do you think that a thread Would on -packagers be more adapted then? > > > > I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand the question. Of course, asking > > over at -packagers won't hurt, but my guess is the response will be it's > > not a big deal from the packaging perspective. > > I think a heads- up in the way of "planning to change it, now's the > time to yell" is the reasonable thing. Renaming applications shouldn't be a problem unless they have to be moved from one binary package to another. I assume all packagers ship all client/server binaries in one package, respectively (and not e.g. a dedicated postgresql-11-pg_test_fsync package), this should only be a matter of updating package metadata. In any case, it should be identical to the xlog->wal rename. Michael -- Michael Banck Projektleiter / Senior Berater Tel.: +49 2166 9901-171 Fax: +49 2166 9901-100 Email: michael.banck@credativ.de credativ GmbH, HRB Mönchengladbach 12080 USt-ID-Nummer: DE204566209 Trompeterallee 108, 41189 Mönchengladbach Geschäftsführung: Dr. Michael Meskes, Jörg Folz, Sascha Heuer Unser Umgang mit personenbezogenen Daten unterliegt folgenden Bestimmungen: https://www.credativ.de/datenschutz