Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf76p-0006OR-7Y for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:34:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf75o-0001XW-6x for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:33:32 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf75n-0001XM-Tz for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:33:31 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nf75e-0006ny-OK for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:33:28 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 23ELXFbQ1547913; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:33:16 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: Noah Misch , Peter Geoghegan , David Rowley , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse In-reply-to: <1521388.1649953580@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <1364997.1649893086@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1365924.1649893883@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1374062.1649896550@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414010505.s7z24jxrfsjbzz7l@alap3.anarazel.de> <1401379.1649899392@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414015112.yhruzx3dbjnz4pji@alap3.anarazel.de> <20220414025122.GA808845@rfd.leadboat.com> <1486022.1649952083@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20220414161850.ibqkevxcv6a7vdxg@alap3.anarazel.de> <1521388.1649953580@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Tom Lane message dated "Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:26:20 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1547911.1649971995.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:33:15 -0400 Message-ID: <1547912.1649971995@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk I wroteL > Andres Freund writes: >> Thanks! Can you repro the problem manually on wrasse, perhaps even >> outside the buildfarm script? > I'm working on that right now, actually... So far, reproducing it manually has been a miserable failure: I've run about 180 cycles of the core regression tests with no error. Not sure what's different between my test scenario and wrasse's. Meanwhile, wrasse did fail with my relallvisible check in place [1], and what that shows is that relallvisible is *zero* to start with and remains so throughout the CREATE INDEX sequence. That pretty definitively proves that it's not a page-skipping problem but an xmin-horizon-too-old problem. We're no closer to understanding where that horizon value is coming from, though. regards, tom lane [1] https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=3Dwrasse&dt=3D= 2022-04-14%2019%3A28%3A12