Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF2D2E0035 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:13:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from developer.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17187-02 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:12:59 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181272E0039 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:12:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m56FCu3R001619; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:12:56 -0400 (EDT) To: Andreas Pflug cc: Gregory Stark , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Overhauling GUCS In-reply-to: <48492356.4040506@pse-consulting.de> References: <29525.1212613052@sss.pgh.pa.us> <48472E47.7030701@dunslane.net> <20080605162400.GF16502@alvh.no-ip.org> <48481CBF.6040602@enterprisedb.com> <48481E3A.4010306@hagander.net> <20080605174209.GL16502@alvh.no-ip.org> <20080605212129.GI14498@yugib.highrise.ca> <3F927D52-A0FD-4575-8D24-F0F70C459235@kineticode.com> <4848FAA6.8000903@pse-consulting.de> <87ej7aeuqx.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <4849137C.3040008@pse-consulting.de> <877id2erp6.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <48492356.4040506@pse-consulting.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andreas Pflug message dated "Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:45:26 +0200" Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1618.1212765176@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200806/283 X-Sequence-Number: 119396 Andreas Pflug writes: > Text config files are NOT friendly for beginner and mediocre users. IMHO > the current restriction on GUC changes is a major obstacle towards pgsql > tuning tools, e.g. written as a Google SoC project. Graphic tools aren't > too popular at pgsql-hackers, but please contemplate a little how much > pgadmin may have contributed to the pgsql usage boost, esp. on windows. I grow weary of this thread. I will say it once more: I do not believe for one instant that the current formatting of postgresql.conf is the major impediment, or even a noticeable impediment, to producing a useful configuration wizard. If you wish to prove otherwise, provide a complete wizard except for the parts that touch the config file, and I will promise to finish it. I will not read or respond to any further discussion of changing the config file format. It's a waste of bandwidth. regards, tom lane