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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:04:49 +0200
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Subject: Re: GRANT ON ALL IN schema
From: Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>,
	Petr Jelinek <pjmodos@pjmodos.net>,
	PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
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2009/8/5 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>> I have one database that is set up with a reporting user (read only on
>> everything). =C2=A0It requires constant maintenance. =C2=A0Every time an=
 object
>> is added or deleted (or dropped and recreated, like a view, which I do
>> ALL THE TIME to work around the inability to add/remove columns) the
>> permissions get shot to hell. =C2=A0I finally crontabbed a script that
>> fixes it every 20 minutes. =C2=A0I had another database where I tried to=
 do
>> some real permission separation and it was just a huge pain in the
>> ass.
>
>> Grant on all isn't gonna fix these problems completely, but it's a
>> start. =C2=A0The DefaultACL stuff is another important step in the right
>> direction.
>
> Seems like default ACLs, not grant-on-all, is what you want for that.
>
> The idea of better support for plpgsql-driven granting isn't going
> to compete with default ACLs, but it does compete with grant-on-all.
> So that's why I'm thinking we ought to take a harder look at that
> before adding nonstandard extensions to GRANT.
>
> Josh's position that "this should be standard SQL" is nonsense, or
> at least he ought to be making that argument to the standards committee
> not us. =C2=A0It *isn't* standard, and therefore it's up to us to decide =
how
> we want to expose the facility. =C2=A0What's more, syntax extensions to G=
RANT
> are a pretty risky way to do it: what if the SQL committee sees the
> light and SQL:201x includes a GRANT extension, only it conflicts with
> ours?
>
> If we want something built-in, maybe providing some prefab plpgsql
> functions is the way to go. =C2=A0But we'd have to arrive at a consensus
> on what best practice of that form looks like.

There are some people, that dislike stored procedures :(. Probably lot
of MySQL users. For them are procedures devil still. I would to like
some base maintenance library in plpgsql. But it's need plpgsql
installed in core by default.

Pavel
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0regards, tom lane
>
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