Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5Ejl-0001Wg-4p for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 May 2017 17:03:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5Ejk-0008BG-Km for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 01 May 2017 17:03:48 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5EiG-0005Oo-TJ; Mon, 01 May 2017 17:02:17 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d5EiD-0005bt-V3; Mon, 01 May 2017 17:02:15 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v41H27GW018058; Mon, 1 May 2017 13:02:08 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: Noah Misch , Petr Jelinek , Peter Eisentraut , Erik Rijkers , David Steele , PostgreSQL-development , Robert Haas , Craig Ringer , pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Subject: Re: snapbuild woes In-reply-to: <20170501164011.5xqwxwlpdoc6kc4o@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <20170413045812.GA2917375@tornado.leadboat.com> <20170417020404.GB2988768@tornado.leadboat.com> <20170418041657.hvwss6hz73ghozp5@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170420000906.75t6uo7bof5pazrq@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170422053458.z7kmzopqdyi2tai4@alap3.anarazel.de> <20170429214201.GB799290@rfd.leadboat.com> <4387.1493642807@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170501160918.j27fvngzuwspg7d6@alap3.anarazel.de> <16845.1493656327@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170501164011.5xqwxwlpdoc6kc4o@alap3.anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Mon, 01 May 2017 09:40:11 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18056.1493658127.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 13:02:07 -0400 Message-ID: <18057.1493658127@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Andres Freund writes: > On 2017-05-01 12:32:07 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> But quite aside from the question of whether we can afford the cycles, >> it seems like the wrong approach. IMO the buildfarm is mainly for >> verifying portability, not for trying to prove that race-like >> conditions don't exist. In most situations we're going out of our way >> to ensure reproduceability of tests we add to the buildfarm sequence; >> but it seems like this is looking for irreproducible results. > Yea, I wondered about that upthread as well. But the tests are quite > useful nonetheless. Wonder about adding them simply as a separate > target. I have no objection to adding more tests as a non-default target. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers