Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1w9meW-001kA5-1e for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 16:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1w9meV-00AG5U-00 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 16:18:15 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1w9meU-00AG5L-1v for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 16:18:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1w9meS-00000000vTA-2wlx for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 16:18:14 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0252590B74 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 18:18:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s899.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.6]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA635592781; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 18:18:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s899.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EAB2C8BA60; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 18:18:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s473.loopia.se (amavis); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s979.loopia.se ([172.22.191.6]) by localhost (s473.loopia.se [172.22.190.13]) (amavis, port 10024) with LMTP id bEK1U1Xy64ys; Mon, 6 Apr 2026 18:18:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.236 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-236.stosn.net [89.255.232.236]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s979.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39C6B10BC3DD; Mon, 06 Apr 2026 18:18:10 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1775492290; bh=whztDDOLOd3Jsp/QSnDMqPE4F6og0ZiwbwN2SW69fts=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=f5r21SBCA6tg6ozagZSO5K3dd2ZhjoaZqaIuv8fFlkc2pfCyKYmkTvEuNvGyq0zFM okrmGDpbcCnIwFsaxMKv9iSev9UMUhUjSb1m/MV82wGOaGyjccfBWOUZvNmqiLLvLB yLHghil/G2YqMyHWA04fvAQVrY6BMRY9EDwtzSG3UOcak1NjJehQSreEfAQhYPx7ga D66YPMUSKo5ZJvxzc5/R349wO2auFHwl9zSbxk7yX2hcc3l4a/NcXQTHka+QJI9ADd 1XVg+tPINA8yY29h1M7C/lgaCfXilRFkksLYH7NQf9Hj366RLCg24Jd8I7aIX274xO 06JWW/kLptObQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51.11.2\)) Subject: Re: PG 19 release notes and authors From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2026 18:17:59 +0200 Cc: Jacob Champion , Jelte Fennema-Nio , Bruce Momjian , "David G. Johnston" , Andrew Dunstan , Tom Lane , Andres Freund , =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro_Herrera?= , Peter Geoghegan , Andrey Borodin , PostgreSQL-development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D7F9923-1F0E-483C-A1FD-8377ABA6AACF@yesql.se> References: <202604051405.sxedzcgzky3n@alvherre.pgsql> <582789.1775401852@sss.pgh.pa.us> <7b16a213-7251-4bd2-add7-824ee2e8b030@dunslane.net> To: Robert Haas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51.11.2) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 6 Apr 2026, at 18:09, Robert Haas wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Apr 6, 2026 at 11:55=E2=80=AFAM Jacob Champion > wrote: >> =46rom a mechanical perspective, that has clear advantages to me >> (especially with the de facto GitHub interpretation), but I think = it'd >> collide with our practice of rewriting commits to maintain project >> voice. Maybe people could get used to that change, but I generally >> expect the Author in the Git metadata to be the *literal* author of >> the commit message. >=20 > Yes, I think that's right. I would have no problem us allowing pushing > of commits under the actual author's name if the commit is pushed > unchanged, but I rarely push anything unchanged and I think people > would be very quickly become unhappy if I started doing so. In the > rare cases where that would be warranted, the person usually just gets > made a committer anyway. Agreed. And we'd have similar discussions around attribution since = there is only a single Author in Git. What if two people did equal amount of = work, whom to place as Author? > But really, that's a discussion for another time. +INT_MAX -- Daniel Gustafsson