Received: from localhost (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EB1475D01 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (unknown [209.167.124.227]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B3D475CE5 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew by mail.libertyrms.com with local (Exim 3.22 #3 (Debian)) id 184oKG-0003My-00 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:28 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: "pgsql-general@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Hot Backup Message-ID: <20021024161128.H31360@mail.libertyrms.com> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Sullivan , "pgsql-general@postgresql.org" References: <3DA323B1.3732.155CAB4F@localhost> <1034084444.6801.12.camel@camel> <20021022103442.C4016@mail.libertyrms.com> <1035470520.12582.7.camel@camel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1035470520.12582.7.camel@camel>; from xzilla@users.sourceforge.net on Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:42:00AM -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Archive-Number: 200210/1056 X-Sequence-Number: 32054 On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:42:00AM -0400, Robert Treat wrote: > I think you missed the part of the thread where the nuclear bomb hit the > data center. hmm... maybe it wasn't a nuclear bomb, but it was getting > there. :-) No, I didn't miss it. Have a look at the Internet Society bid to run .org -- it's available for public consumption on ICANN's site. One may belive that, if people are launching nuclear attacks, suicide bombings, and anthrax releases, the disposition of some set of data one looks after is unlikely to be of tremendous importance. But lawyers and insurers don't think that way, and if you really want PostgreSQL to be taken seriously in the "enterprise market", you have to please lawyers and insurers. Having undertaken the exercise, I really can say that it is a little strange to think about what would happen to data I am in charge of in case a fairly large US centre were completely blown off the map. But with a little careful planning, you actually _can_ think about that, and provide strong assurances that things won't get lost. But it doesn't pay to call such questions "silly", because they are questions that people will demand answers to before they entrust you with their millions of dollars of data. A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x110