Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:06:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@postgresql.org>
To: Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>,
	Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>,
	Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>, jim@nasby.net,
	"pgsql-general@postgresql.org" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] SAP and MySQL ... [and Benchmark]
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Robert Treat wrote:

> But we do need core's approval to add legitimacy to our efforts,
> especially with some of the "marketing is bad" folks that live on
> -hackers.  We also need core's approval to get infrastructure changes
> put into place to help our efforts.

Huh?  What infrastructure changes have ever gone through -core?

> This overlooks the fact that you can't earn credibility with some of our
> community unless you hack on the back-end. The uproar over the 7.3 press
> release was a fine example of what happens when the "advocacy" guys try
> to make a change to something non-technical that the "technical" guys
> don't approve of.

Actually, I thought at that time we had agreed to have two seperate press
releases (assuming that that is what you are talking about?) ... one
'marketing driven', and one 'technically driven'?