X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E943D9DC855 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:57:10 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46406-03 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:57:10 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from noel.decibel.org (noel.decibel.org [67.100.216.10]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E249DC849 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:57:08 -0400 (AST) Received: by noel.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 357473983F; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:57:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:57:09 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: Mark Woodward Cc: Andrew Dunstan , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx Message-ID: <20060130185709.GY3920@pervasive.com> References: <16397.24.91.171.78.1138558881.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> <43DD0997.7050104@dunslane.net> <18738.24.91.171.78.1138561487.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> <43DD1527.80102@dunslane.net> <18674.24.91.171.78.1138565706.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18674.24.91.171.78.1138565706.squirrel@mail.mohawksoft.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE amd64 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.099 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.099] X-Spam-Score: 0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200601/931 X-Sequence-Number: 79035 On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 03:15:06PM -0500, Mark Woodward wrote: > > Postgres generally seems to favor extensibility over integration, and I > > generally agree with that approach. > > I generally agree as well, but..... > > I think there is always a balance between "out of the box" vs > "extensibility." I think integration and extensibility is fantastic for > addaptation of your product, but "oobe" (out of box experience) is > important for those you want to target. > > By all practical measure PostgreSQL is miles ahead of MySQL, but MySQL > wins because it is the defacto PHP database. PostgreSQL does not target > PHP in any real sense, I am proposing adding this extension to change > that. Rather than try and include everything and the kitchen-sink in the baseline PostgreSQL, why not create a set of PHP targeted ports/packages? Maybe even bundle Apache in there so you've got your own 'LAPP' stack? (Though being a FreeBSD guy, I'd rather have 'FAPP'...) One of the key advantages to this approach is that now you can really create a package that makes sense to the target audience by doing things like automatically including PHP as a procedure language. And of course, there's no reason this has to be limited to just PHP... -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461