Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0EA64FD06 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:50:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20734-04 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:50:19 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945F64FD05 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:50:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (190-95-19-36.bk17-dsl.surnet.cl [190.95.19.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7ILr7c2004997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:53:10 -0700 Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 692FB47C9A; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:50:10 -0400 (CLT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:50:10 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Tom Lane Cc: Gregory Stark , Greg Smith , Michael Nacos , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Overhauling GUCS Message-ID: <20080818215010.GC4454@alvh.no-ip.org> References: <7473.1212625397@sss.pgh.pa.us> <200807161530.m6GFUNY28751@momjian.us> <407fa4640808130738s3537ca45j22322a5eb70f9173@mail.gmail.com> <407fa4640808180426q26a41cv817deb91dbbcd312@mail.gmail.com> <87y72u178j.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <3447.1219088424@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3447.1219088424@sss.pgh.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:53:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200808/769 X-Sequence-Number: 122523 Tom Lane escribió: > Gregory Stark writes: > > The entire target market for such a thing is DBAs stuck on hosted databases > > which don't have shell access to their machines. Perhaps the overlap between > > that and the people who can write a server-side module which dumps out a > > config file according to some rules is just too small? > > There's a veritable boatload of stuff we do that assumes shell access > (how many times have you seen cron jobs recommended, for instance?). > So I'm unconvinced that "modify the config without shell access" > is really a goal that is worth lots of effort. Actually, lots of people are discouraged by suggestions of using cron to do anything. The only reason cron is suggested is because we don't have any other answer, and for many people it's a half-solution. An integrated task scheduler in Pg would be more than welcome. Also, remember that pgAdmin already comes with a pgAgent thing. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support